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JAcknife

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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 11:17

Would the jacknife be a good starter set? I'm still trying to decide from the replacement parts for the jacknife or the one with the book,or the jacknife...help me decide what would be best for me (I'm new)
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Re: JAcknife

Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 11:51

Timmy321 wrote:Would the jacknife be a good starter set? I'm still trying to decide from the replacement parts for the jacknife or the one with the book,or the jacknife...help me decide what would be best for me (I'm new)


I learned on the jack-knife, so it can be done. I found the jack knife set unsatisfactory as both a pocket set and a main set.

If you just want to learn how to do it, get the full size tools. I've already suggested buying the picks individually so you don't end up with useless things (ball pick, that book, the case?), but that's your call.

If you want something to stick in your pocket, I'd suggest getting the knife replacement parts and key ringing them together, then figuring out a wrench. I've never done this; next time I order from Southord, I will. But I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 11:57

thinking about this. Just getting the replacement parts (Diamond, hook, snake, and the tension wrench, maybe the ball...) just for portability. + plus the one that comes with the case/book and all. if I buy the replacement parts with the ball and the wrench it's only 8$ more so the total with all of it together is like 22$ so that's not bad. that's what I'm going to do. I know that the book is useless but...there isn't another set with longer handles.
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Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 12:29

Timmy321 wrote:thinking about this. Just getting the replacement parts (Diamond, hook, snake, and the tension wrench, maybe the ball...) just for portability. + plus the one that comes with the case/book and all. if I buy the replacement parts with the ball and the wrench it's only 8$ more so the total with all of it together is like 22$ so that's not bad. that's what I'm going to do. I know that the book is useless but...there isn't another set with longer handles.


Nothing says you have to buy a SET, though. If you really want the case, you should, but keep in mind that half of that $15 is the case and $1.50 of it is the ball pick.

Whether you buy the set or not, I suggest you also get one of the twist-flex wrenches and the Z-wrench. If you don't buy the set, I suggest you get a twist-flex wrench, a z-wrench, and the rake/short hook/small diamond.

Sorry if I'm being a little unclear. Kinda early for me.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 12:55

where do I find the twist-flex wrench & z-wrench?
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Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 12:58

Timmy321 wrote:where do I find the twist-flex wrench & z-wrench?


I believe it's the top of the third page of their online catalog. I forget what they call the z-wrench, but it's the one shaped like a Z instead of an L.
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Postby hozer2k » 6 Jan 2004 13:03

I seem to have difficulty with the jacknife as well. I think part of it is that the picsk tend to wiggle. It looks pretty, but I prefer regular picks.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 13:05

short or long twist flex? saw the Z one.
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Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 13:07

Timmy321 wrote:short or long twist flex? saw the Z one.


Whichever. I prefer shorter wrenches -- but, then, I don't like twist flex wrenches. I know a lot of people swear by them, though.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 13:11

why did you suggest me getting them then? :o
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Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 13:17

Timmy321 wrote:why did you suggest me getting them then? :o


Because you don't know what you like yet. You might like twist-flex wrenches and diamond picks, even though I never use either of 'em.

If /I/ were ordering from Southord for the first time, and somehow I knew my preferences then like I know them now, I'd order an SP-9, an SP-10, and a TW-18, and that's it.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 13:33

I'm not trying to be cocky but what is so special about the twist flex?

Ok I've narowed it down. Jacknife replacement parts + the one with the book and the case, I think the case would be nice...for storage at home.
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Postby CitySpider » 6 Jan 2004 14:02

Timmy321 wrote:I'm not trying to be cocky but what is so special about the twist flex?

Ok I've narowed it down. Jacknife replacement parts + the one with the book and the case, I think the case would be nice...for storage at home.


You'd have to ask someone who likes it. I think the general idea is that it allows you to better control tension plus it gives you more feedback. Personally I don't think it does either one.

Let me know what you think of the replacement picks. I'm going to get some myself, but it might be awhile.
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Postby Timmy321 » 6 Jan 2004 16:13

I'll probably get them later on in the week.
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Postby technik » 25 Jan 2004 7:17

[quote]I'm not trying to be cocky but what is so special about the twist flex?

Ok I've narowed it down. Jacknife replacement parts + the one with the book and the case, I think the case would be nice...for storage at home.[quote]

I prefer twist flex because the flat side of a tool is more flexible than the edge (try it on any piece of metal.) this means more give, and therefore more feel, and you can bend it, making it more fine tuning of the correct torque. Plus if you need max. torque, just push the wrench before the twist. I can't imagine life witout them.
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