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by MRsteve » 8 Jan 2004 5:08
Thankyou one and all,
I found this site and was hooked, hooked enough to manufacture my first half diamond and allen key wrench...
It surely looked good(I have a trade background and good tools) but I had my doubts(certainty would have have come in a leather pouch  )
Ok, off to the hardware store for a cheap padlock......
1 hour of picking(with breaks) and pop!!!
Got it down to 30 secs and less....Im astonished!!
I can see this becoming a v.enjoyable hobby and maybe even do it professionally some day.
Thanks again all
P.S For a minimal kit, what you guys call bare essentials? Half Diamond(Steep and soft angles) and maybe a snake type pick?
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by Grudge » 8 Jan 2004 10:51
Some people swear by diamonds, some people just swear at them
I prefer Euro hooks because they still work in large keyways but can manage smaller ones too. Unfortunately Southord doesn't sell their Euro picks individually  .
So, if I had to stick with the standard Southord picks I would get one long and short hook picks (Southord SP-08, -09). For rakes, one snake and maybe one long jag (often seems to work when the snake won't do it) (Southord SP-10, -12). Don't overlook tension wrenches, you need more than one! Maybe a Southord Standard (TW-01) , Thin Line (TW-11) and Double Sided (looks like tweezers) TW-15.
So 2 picks, 2 rakes and 3 wrenches for a total of 7 tools. For a REALLY minimal kit, I would go with the SP-02 (a hook on one end, snake on the other) and TW-18 double ended tension wrench. Only 2 tools and 3 dollars.
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by Grudge » 8 Jan 2004 11:00
I forgot to mention that my last post wasn't meant to be a Southord advertisement, I just used them as a readily available reference for various pick styles. In fact, making your own tools is both great experience and adds to the hobby of lockpicking (IMHO).
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by MRsteve » 8 Jan 2004 11:08
thanks for the recommendations ill have to find some photos to work from. And AGREED making em is a big part of the fun for me also.
Also I made my pick from MIT but they are oversize when printed,as are most, any knowledge of plans perhaps? I also used photos with rulers on but would rather be more exacting.
Thks again,
MRsteve
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by CitySpider » 8 Jan 2004 11:13
Grudge wrote:I prefer Euro hooks because they still work in large keyways but can manage smaller ones too. Unfortunately Southord doesn't sell their Euro picks individually  .
Get. I've been assured that they'll start, as soon as they get around to updating their web site.
And as for my "minimum" lockpicking kit: one wrench, one short hook, and one rake, and the rake is debatable. Specific brands don't much matter, but if I get to pick, then an HPC TR-4, a Rytan blue diamond hook, and a Southern Ordnance sp-10.
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by Grudge » 8 Jan 2004 11:15
Thanks to Matt Blaze, a one stop shopping site for a great set of pictures is at:
http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/picks/
All of the pictures are shot with a ruler and include both a small and larger version (just click on the small picture). Pick sets shown are from LAB, Rytan, Falle-Safe and others.
Enjoy 
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by MRsteve » 8 Jan 2004 11:39
Great reference, thankyou very much.
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by Grudge » 8 Jan 2004 11:53
CitySpider wrote: I've been assured that they'll start, as soon as they get around to updating their web site.
Good News! Thanks
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by CitySpider » 8 Jan 2004 12:17
CitySpider wrote:Grudge wrote:Get. I've been assured that they'll start, as soon as they get around to updating their web site.
That first word should be "yet." Sorry about that.
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by Hawk2064 » 8 Jan 2004 17:41
Grudge wrote:Some people swear by diamonds
I think it is a great all around pick. Definitely a must have item in any kit.
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by CitySpider » 8 Jan 2004 17:44
Hawk2064 wrote:I think it is a great all around pick. Definitely a must have item in any kit.
And, just because it's good to have opposing viewpoints, I think they're pretty much useless, and only own one because I haven't bothered to chop it off of my pocket set yet.
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by Pheniox » 8 Jan 2004 17:45
CitySpider wrote:Hawk2064 wrote:I think it is a great all around pick. Definitely a must have item in any kit.
And, just because it's good to have opposing viewpoints, I think they're pretty much useless, and only own one because I haven't bothered to chop it off of my pocket set yet.
i have one, i just start with it and use it for a minute or 2. if it doesn't work, I use my good old hook.
still though, i think I swear at it more than i swear by it. would rather use a S rake most of the time than a half.
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by Hawk2064 » 8 Jan 2004 17:48
Pheniox wrote:i have one, i just start with it and use it for a minute or 2. if it doesn't work, I use my good old hook.
Try raking the lock with the diamond, that works for me (i suck at just picking, better at raking).
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by Pheniox » 8 Jan 2004 17:50
Hawk2064 wrote:Pheniox wrote:i have one, i just start with it and use it for a minute or 2. if it doesn't work, I use my good old hook.
Try raking the lock with the diamond, that works for me (i suck at just picking, better at raking).
thats how i start, i rake till i get annoyed then I attack with a S snake, then hook
only thing I like about a half diamond is how easy you can feel the pins before you start.
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by Hawk2064 » 8 Jan 2004 17:53
Yes feeling the pins is nice, but I'm still relatively new to picking so I try to get a lock with all the main picks, so I can truly "master" that lock.
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