is medeco / mul-t-lock almost unpickable?

[salem]

i've browsed the pick list in the forum, and it seems that no one can open medeco, only a very few can open mul-t-lock (maybe some models) .

So in your views, can i say that most of their models of these two brands are unpickable? I'm quite curious about it because my local lock stores often claim this to us. I have some doubts and i searched it over the internet and finally got this forum. Thanks for your help and info in advance!

[illusion]

A medeco that is in clean working order, can, and has been picked in a comfortable environment. A member of this forum, Zeke79 has made a video proving that it can be done. I have picked one, but not as consisyantly, and nor as quickly... pretty poor success with Medeco personaly, but I'll improve.

Mul-T-Lock can be picked - I've picked both standard and the Interactive models. I don't know of a video proving it can be done, but you'll have to take my word on it.

Medeco and MTL are very good locks - I don't know how I'd fair actualy picking one mounted to a door in freezing cold weather and rain.

[salem]

A medeco that is in clean working order, can, and has been picked in a comfortable environment. A member of this forum, Zeke79 has made a video proving that it can be done. I have picked one, but not as consisyantly, and nor as quickly... pretty poor success with Medeco personaly, but I'll improve.

Mul-T-Lock can be picked - I've picked both standard and the Interactive models. I don't know of a video proving it can be done, but you'll have to take my word on it.

Medeco and MTL are very good locks - I don't know how I'd fair actualy picking one mounted to a door in freezing cold weather and rain.

Thanks illusion! I'm wondering if you're given a completely new Mul-t-lock, how do you see the success rate to pick it in a fairly comfortable environment? I'm pretty lost on that because I've read some reports that people claimed to open it within three minutes, but on the other hands, some other said that a pickable mul-t-lock is actually very difficult to pick for many experts.

I'm currently using Mul-T-lock interactive (with green-yellow-red key) and all security of my home relies on it only. Do you think it's time to change a new lock?

Thanks again!

[UWSDWF]

good lock system one of the best in fact.... a criminal is more likely gonna kick the door in or break a window then pick in

[zeke79]

Yes, it is a good lock system that covers one of the big basics and that is key control. It has Good resistance to picking, Good resistance to drilling, and Good resistance to bumping.

The lock is UL437 listed so it is held to a higher standard than locks you are going to grab off of the shelf at your local Wal Mart.

[illusion]

It took me a long time to pick my MTL when i got it, and I don't think I'd be very successful were I to attempt picking an MTL that I previously hadn't touched right now. MTL are *not* easy, they're bloody hard! It has taken me a great deal of time to pick mine, and I will admit to neglecting other things for the sole goal of picking it.
You need the proper picks to do it, and unless you are a lockie, or have contacts, you can invisage paying around £70 for a set of picks to open this lock. Time I can open mine in? about 7 minutes, I just did it now whilst writing this PM... Bear in mind that I have got to know this lock and I'm doing it in a warm and comfortable space.

The new MTL is actualy the MT5, which uses a 'worm-track' element similar looking to the Evva 3KS. I haven't got one, and doubt I'd be able to pick it open right now - hands up who has already beaten it? I doubt many...

Hmmm... The lock has measures to stop drilling, and I'd say resists very well unless it's a Euro cylinder that sticks out of the door a lot and is *not* a break secure model that resists this attack. In terms of picking, well I don't envisage many people at all picking it, but it's certainly a very secure lock.

The single issue is bumping... MTL have recently issued a statement regarding bumping, and having not done it personaly, I'll wait for somebody to actualy prove it can be done, before I claim it's possible.

[Bud Wiser]

good lock system one of the best in fact.... a criminal is more likely gonna kick the door in or break a window then pick in

I agree, but being a security consultant I suppose I could be accused of being biased, but the statistics prove it beyond any doubt!

People are much better off spending more money on the door and door frame construction, as the door is the number one way a thief enters, next would be windows or garage doors.

Best line of defense would better doors and windows, and a good security system. Just a security sign on the front lawn will discourage most burglars and they will simply move to the next house. This also defeats bumping too

Now can I interest you in a nice security system, I will throw in a free medeco or mtl too

[UWSDWF]

good lock system one of the best in fact.... a criminal is more likely gonna kick the door in or break a window then pick in

I agree, but being a security consultant I suppose I could be accused of being biased, but the statistics prove it beyond any doubt!

People are much better off spending more money on the door and door frame construction, as the door is the number one way a thief enters, next would be windows or garage doors.

Best line of defense would better doors and windows, and a good security system. Just a security sign on the front lawn will discourage most burglars and they will simply move to the next house. This also defeats bumping too

Now can I interest you in a nice security system, I will throw in a free medeco or mtl too

here here......
I suggest a blast door, I reccomend Krieger ohhh and don't forget the window laminate, I reccemend ACE 400 series
...sorry got a little carried away

[Bud Wiser]

good lock system one of the best in fact.... a criminal is more likely gonna kick the door in or break a window then pick in

I agree, but being a security consultant I suppose I could be accused of being biased, but the statistics prove it beyond any doubt!

People are much better off spending more money on the door and door frame construction, as the door is the number one way a thief enters, next would be windows or garage doors.

Best line of defense would better doors and windows, and a good security system. Just a security sign on the front lawn will discourage most burglars and they will simply move to the next house. This also defeats bumping too

Now can I interest you in a nice security system, I will throw in a free medeco or mtl too

here here......
I suggest a blast door, I reccomend Krieger ohhh and don't forget the window laminate, I reccemend ACE 400 series
...sorry got a little carried away

Good Stuff
I especially like the explosive video for ACE 400,
"designed for violent crime areas or countries that are experiencing civil unrest"
sounds like my old neighborhood!

[UWSDWF]

yep and made in canada... last client was very happy about it cause they offer UV protection and she's gotta alot of art.

[LockNewbie21]

Your question, can theselocked be picked? yes, now come the variables.. IE. Time evviroment, tools, wounting, worn.. not worn?

The biggest is the person opening it.. if its a theif.. just kick you door good buy.

If your worried, reiforce your door and all that, but honestly look. as if you where locked out and where trying to find a way in.

Are there any expensive things near around on in view of your windows? Theres alot more than a lock to secure your building.. which includes the fake security alarm stickers people will buy and throw on.

Honestly jsut do secure what you see you could get in.. and if all else fails.. go to your local sports store and buy your self a mossburg, I hear shotguns have a tendency to stop intruders in your house faster then a medeco.

Just be real about it, if someone has tried or has broken into your house, and you don;t feel safe. or if you have Kin.. get a gun lock it up and time to se how long it takes to get.

If you just worried DB will show up and open your door laugh and run.. jsut get a reiforced door and a half decent lock.

[ericm115]

Guns always sound like a good idea, but they will take a terribly scary situation into a nightmare really fast. Once you've shot, you are in a much worse position. Do you honestly want to keep living in a house that you killed someone in?

Sorry to be morbid, but I'm strongly against firearms as personal protection in a home. Try a taser. Many have 30-foot range and enough power to take down any size intruder. They also make a pretty good bear repellant spray that sprays about as far... it's like a garden hose of fire...

anyways, a bit off topic... but I couldn't help interjecting.

I dunno anything about the ease of picking Medeco and MTL... so I can't contribute to the actual thread topic...


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[LockNewbie21]

anyways, a bit off topic... but I couldn't help interjecting.

I fulyl respect your opinion.. as if you've ever been to war my grandfather said the macho gun and fighting thing dies.

I was more going to for absolute extreme.. basically when you knwo theres a problem. Hopefully noone ever gets shot.. but protecting kin is a serious thing.

Anyway, it was an extreme meaning.. do it right, reiforce and secure your house.. or as you said do it the easy way and buy a shot gun.

SOme people would buy a shot gun.

I simply meant.. you don;t want it ot come to that as it will stop someone liek no other lock.. but the cost is a little more then a mdeco a reiforced door, and some other odd ends for ecruity.

Sorry for a mix up. Buddy.. but I think yu got the extreme part jsut didn;t explain good enough

[UWSDWF]

yeah ummm the reinforced door thing and window and such.....

I suggest a blast door, I reccomend Krieger ohhh and don't forget the window laminate, I reccemend ACE 400 series
...sorry got a little carried away

click the underlines to see some cool 'stuff'

[LockNewbie21]

Dang right

Next people will say.. umm who can i buy a reiforced house to mount it on?