Ordering Pick sets

by **BazookaMedic** » 16 Sep 2006 21:40

If I were to order a Pick set from lockpicks.com, Would they actually check to see if you are a certified locksmith. I have lookede through their information and can not see how they would check. The only reason i am asking is because my hombrewed picks are awful, and i think I should start With a Decent Set.

by **Raccoon** » 16 Sep 2006 21:42

This is something to ask them.

by **lockedin** » 16 Sep 2006 22:17

No, they won't. And neither will any of the major sites. Trust me, I've bought from most of them.

by **bumpit** » 16 Sep 2006 22:19

Good question(goes and orders a set)

by **bumpit** » 16 Sep 2006 22:34

What about lockpickshop.com they look nice the 14 piece set witht he 4 torque renches should be plenty for me to start with. My parents wonder if it is a bit shady what should I say?

http://www.lockpickshop.com/page/LPS/PROD/LS/C1510

I love this set, I want to pick my Tri- Circle 266 right now even though I know I should take all the pins out except for two for practise. I am using the excercises to get the feel of the lock it is very fun to learn even though I have not picked a lock yet.

by **bumpit** » 16 Sep 2006 22:40

I meant this set. I live in Canada so they should be perfect for me.http://www.lockpickshop.com/Merchant2/m ... ry_Code=LS

Do they check if your a locksmith here. I do it for hobby and I have told my parents. I guess it is hard to believe someone over the internet....

by **stilte** » 16 Sep 2006 23:06

All you can do is try.

by **SFGOON** » 16 Sep 2006 23:20

Some Canadianprovinces (I don't know which) require a license to own lockpicks.

by **tharms17** » 16 Sep 2006 23:53

ok.....good question i just ordered from lockpickshop.com a few days ago.....(got a replacement short hook) and no they do not check if your a locksmith....just make sure they are legal to posses them in your province before you order any lockpick related items. and i also bought a 14-peice lock pick set from them and they dont care as long as your older than 18.....which im not (im 13) but i ordered with my dads name and hes 51 sooooooooo they dont care.

by **Romstar** » 17 Sep 2006 4:10

bumpit wrote:I meant this set. I live in Canada so they should be perfect for me.
http://www.lockpickshop.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MPXS-14&Category_Code=LS

Do they check if your a locksmith here. I do it for hobby and I have told my parents. I guess it is hard to believe someone over the internet....

Lockpickshop is an excellent company and the service the last I heard was excellent.

What province do you live in?

Romstar

by **bumpit** » 17 Sep 2006 4:38

British Columbia. My Dad is a retired policeman(no hate pleese) he was not sure ither. Also is a Tri-Circle 266 a bad starting lock to pick I bought it today for 6 bucks it is pretty big lock and it did not say if it had security pins.

by **Romstar** » 17 Sep 2006 6:30

bumpit wrote:British Columbia. My Dad is a retired policeman(no hate pleese) he was not sure ither. Also is a Tri-Circle 266 a bad starting lock to pick I bought it today for 6 bucks it is pretty big lock and it did not say if it had security pins.

No hate here. You should have seen my last family reunion. A big sign at the door that said, "Please check all weapons here". Most of them were carrying guns, and only half of them had badges. I come for one messed up family.

British Columbia is pretty laid back as far as the laws are concerned. Locksmiths are regulated through the Ministry of Public Safety. The same department responsible for security guards, and I belive private investigators and guard dog handlers.

If I remember the law for BC correctly, it only pertains to you if you are trading as a locksmith. Possession for personal purposes not related to any criminal activities are perfectly legal. Criminal activities involving lock picks fall back on Canada Criminal Code section 351 concerning "burglery tools" where any tool or device used in the comission of an indictable offence are considered "burglery tools".

The tri-circle 266 should be a reasonable lock to start with. Personally, a decent mortice cylinder mounted in a vice or a "lock mount" is the best way to start but most people start with padlocks of some sort.

Have fun,
Romstar

by **linty** » 17 Sep 2006 6:31

some canadian provinces require a license?
anybody know anything else about that because i'm not so sure it's true.

by **Romstar** » 17 Sep 2006 6:50

linty wrote:some canadian provinces require a license?
anybody know anything else about that because i'm not so sure it's true.

Figures you would be in Ontario. If it isn't here, it isn't in Canada. Tell me, can you point out Nova Scotia on a map. Going East, what province will you be in when you leave Quebec?

Good lord. :roll:

Look, here's the good news for you: Ontario has no pick laws that I am aware of outside of CC S.351 which applies across the country.

351. (1) Every one who, without lawful excuse, the proof of which lies on him, has in his possession any instrument suitable for the purpose of breaking into any place, motor vehicle, vault or safe under circumstances that give rise to a reasonable inference that the instrument has been used or is or was intended to be used for any such purpose, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.

Here is the deal as the Supreme Court considered it in r. v. holmes, [1988] 1 S.C.R. 914

http://scc.lexum.umontreal.ca/en/1988/1988rcs1-914/1988rcs1-914.html

Basically I'll boil it down but the link is there if you want to wade through the legalese.

If you have lock picking tools or "burglery tools" in your possession, but have a reasonable answer as to why, and you have NOT comitted an offence, and it does not appear that you are in fact on your way to commit an offence the you are free and clear under section 351 of the code. Bear in mind, that during the comission of an offence, a screwdriver can be considered "burglery tools". Any tool or defice that can be, or has been adapted for the purposes of "house breaking" are considered burglery tools if they are found on your person during the comission of an offence.

Now, in regards to pick licenses; Alberta has the most stringent in Canada and even they have no real interest in bothering normal people unless they are comitting an offence. Saskatchewan liked Alberta's legislation so much, they asked them to administer their pick licensing for them. So unless it has changed, a Sask. locksmith has to get his license from Alberta.

British Columbia is the only other province with locksmith laws, and they only pertain to those persons who are trading as locksmiths, or employed by a locksmith. Private citizens fall back under CC S.351

This has all been dealt with before, and if you do a search you will find it.

Romstar

by **UWSDWF** » 17 Sep 2006 6:58

hey I know where them places is their over by not-Toronto

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