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I am feeling Desperate

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I am feeling Desperate

Postby bumpit » 19 Sep 2006 2:11

Is a Master Lock #5 or #3 good locks to start out picking with crappy home made tools until my set arives. What are the easiest pad locks to pick. I just need something to lift my spirits :oops:
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Postby UWSDWF » 19 Sep 2006 4:06

you found the easiest pads already
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Postby pinsetter » 19 Sep 2006 8:40

Yep, the Master #3's and #5's should prove to be the easiest padlocks you will find to pick. I've seen some of them be a little tricky, but for the most part they pop pretty easily.

Still, what do you mean by "crappy" tools? ANY lock can be considered difficult if you don't have tools that are at least close to commercial picks.
Homemade doesn't have to mean crappy. All my tools are homemade and they are by no means crappy tools. I've made them all out of windshield wiper inserts using pictures of picks I've seen to go by.
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Postby Krypos » 19 Sep 2006 9:26

pinsetter is right there. homemade doesnt mean its crap.


heck, look at raimundos bogotas! those are better than MOST commercial picks i have seen. you can make good tools, but you have to care to make them and have to want to do well, and usually with some pictures and references and whatnot.
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Re: I am feeling Desperate

Postby Bud Wiser » 19 Sep 2006 10:50

bumpit wrote:Is a Master Lock #5 or #3 good locks to start out picking with crappy home made tools until my set arives. What are the easiest pad locks to pick. I just need something to lift my spirits :oops:


While the master #3 and #5 are easy, they are not the easiest, and can be tricky for complete beginners. Raking is very easy but SPP can be tricky. Even though they are both only 4 pin tumblers! Some pop open easier then others. But often it's harder for a beginner to feel what the pins are doing on these master locks.

Not sure where you are, but if you have Dollar stores (Dollar General, Dollar Tree, etc) try some cheaper locks, or go to Walmart and look for Mountain Padlocks. Those are easier.

Master 3 & 5 just require lighter tension on the turning tool, and a softer touch with the pick. Once you think they are all set, there will be one that isn't. Go over each again tapping ever so lightly.
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Postby bumpit » 19 Sep 2006 17:39

Thank you, I really should have explained myself better. I have seen many home made tools on this site and they are amazing. By crappy tools I meant the tools thats I have made. I made a snap hook and I am not sure if the end it too big or not.I did put lots of time into it however and if you saw a picture of it you would think it was fairly good for my first home-made pick. I have not purchased master locks #3 and #5 and was wondering if they were the easiest. Right now I have a tri-circle 266 and it is giving me lots of trouble. Today I went to Canadian tire and bought a Master Combination lock to try the shim and a Garrison 30mm lock to try and pick. Thanks guys I may try Wal-Mart and the $ store next.
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Postby rabidchipmunk91 » 19 Sep 2006 17:48

this sounds like me! #3 is very easy. i am using some home made picks until my set comes, but my picks are better than I thought they would be. I think its more fun to use picks that u made ur self. its more rewarding.
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Postby bumpit » 19 Sep 2006 18:00

I just picked the Garrison 30mm lock half with my snap gun half with my pick. :lol: I am very happy right now thanks guys :D My First Lock!!!
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Postby rabidchipmunk91 » 19 Sep 2006 19:39

good job! its a great feeling getin your first lock.
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Postby pip » 19 Sep 2006 20:01

bumpit wrote: By crappy tools I meant the tools thats I have made.


did you start out to make " crappy tools "


THINK POSITIVE !!!

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Postby picpower » 19 Sep 2006 20:47

I don't know if this is normal or not to noobs but, I went out and picked up Master #3, #5, 140, 532 and others and was able to get them open open several times in 1-2 mins. So, I got some more locks of the same model to see if I just got lucky with easy locks. Well I was able to get those with some practice also.

Then, a few days go by where I don't get to practice my 30 mins on in the early AM and bam I can't get a darn thing open but for the #3 and #5.

I guess I was just getting lucky the first two weeks. :(

Luckily my next door neighbor is a retired lock smith and he is mentoring me on lock picking, between his laughing at my style. ;)
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Postby picpower » 19 Sep 2006 20:48

BTW, I made my picks then picked up a made set and actually prefer using my pics that I made. Funny how that is.
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Postby Kaotik » 19 Sep 2006 22:14

I also use my own tools, mainly because they look so good :P .

Using your own tools can give you a good feeling being able to open a lock with them. It's when you can design and fabricate a custom or an original design of a pick like Ray and I, and open a large percentage of different locks is where it gets really rewarding and satisfying. :)
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Postby stilte » 20 Sep 2006 6:12

I always use my homemade tension wrenches when picking even though I've got Southords. There's that personal touch, and my locks have rather restrictive keyways that Southord's wrenches don't fit as comfortably as mine do.

As for tri-circles, if you get the ones with spools, they can be really tough to pick. I practiced 3-4 hours on weekdays and over 8 hours on weekends for 3 weeks, and thought I was getting better. And then I got my first tri-circle, it killed my confidence.
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Postby Mark A » 20 Sep 2006 11:30

Bumpit

Many locksmiths make their own picks and wrenches and it is satisfying to open locks with them.
If you have picked any locks with your homemade picks then they are not crappy, and you have done a good job.

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