7 Pin Tubular

[CantKillAVirus]

Ok I know I'm going to get alot of crap for this but whatever. I have a Southord 7 pin tubular pick and a few 7 pin tubular locks. The pick only picks one of the locks. With the other two it just pushes the feelers back. I've tried it with different tensions and it still doesn't work. I've even tried as tight as I could get it but then it didn't even move the feelers. What am I doing wrong???

[unbreakable]

I think you just need to find a happy medium between when the tension is too little, and too much......the locks might have a fairly small range where the tension must be....

What type of tubular lock are they? If they're something like a ACE II, you may be SOL.


Sorry I can't be of much help......

[btierney]

Your technique is flawed. You would just have to get very lucky for that to ever work, IMO. The technique I was taught, and with which I have had great success, is:
-Pull the 7/8 feelers back
-Adjust the locking knob for a medium tension
-Insert the tubular pick and apply light turning pressure.
-Begin pushing the feelers in as if you were SPP. Push the solid ones first, and save the spongy feeling ones for later.
-After all of the pins have been pushed to the shear line, the plug will turn. Lock the tension knob and decode to cut a key.

If your goal is to open a vending machine or other coin operated device you do not own, my advice would be:
-Remove the pick
-Put it in your pocket
-Go home

-Brian

[Shrub]

The normal way would be to use the tool as an impression device which means you do infact set the feelers flush with the edge of the pick, tighten them up and then insert and apply tension on and off,

The way btierney has described takes a bit more practice but is a good way of doing it also and is the only way you will regulary get locks like the ACE II,

[btierney]

Thanks, Shrub. I had never heard of doing it that way. I stand corrected. I just didn't see how that would ever get the pins exactly to the shear line together. I guess it's just a matter of the correct tension. Now I will have to try that.

-Brian

[Shrub]

Yes, its just as if you are impressioning the lock, it sounds like you would know that princible so have a go doing it with your pick on a tubular but dont wigle so much or as hard as a normal cylinder,

The cheaper locks you would insert your pick put tension on and then slightly gently rock it around and then you will see the feels being pushed back to the shear, lock opens,

Youll love that way for the cheaper locks once youve got it down as its a lot quicker but as i ay you wont get the ACE II's like that due to the varying spring pressures,

Let me know how you get on