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Bolt cutters

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Bolt cutters

Postby stilte » 8 Nov 2006 21:10

Someone said something that got me thinking. Aside from what manufacturers say, are bolt cutters really universal keys? Has anyone tried them on boron steel padlock shackles?

I wouldnt expect the small ones to work but what about the 1m ones?
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Postby linty » 8 Nov 2006 21:16

you can cut boron steel with large bolt cutters, i haven't done it but i've seen the results many times. however it's usually on the smaller shackles, i'd like to see the cutters that could get through an abloy pl350.

then again, an angle grinder will do it in seconds.
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Postby What » 8 Nov 2006 21:34

hmm, somebody send me a lock that 'cant' be gotten into with bolt cutters.

my 'secret' technique works on everything i have tried....
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Postby stilte » 8 Nov 2006 21:41

Maybe i'm a sucker for marketing ads, some of those boron alloy shackles are huge. The salesperson didn't know much about locks but he claimed it would take at least a minute to get an angle grinder through something that thick, he recommended electical hydraulic cutters.
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Postby lockpickroy » 8 Nov 2006 22:01

What wrote:hmm, somebody send me a lock that 'cant' be gotten into with bolt cutters.

my 'secret' technique works on everything i have tried....


will it work on this bad puppy?

viewtopic.php?t=14982&highlight=sargent+greenleaf
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Postby Stray » 8 Nov 2006 22:14

mine would ::Cue evil laugh:: MUAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.. *COUGH-COUGH*... ahahahahahahaha
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Postby bumpit » 8 Nov 2006 23:43

I have seen many Abloy locks that look impossible to cut with bolt cutters. I am a Welder though so no metal is resistant to my Acetylene torch or a good gouging 8)
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Postby What » 9 Nov 2006 2:08

lockpickroy wrote:
What wrote:hmm, somebody send me a lock that 'cant' be gotten into with bolt cutters.

my 'secret' technique works on everything i have tried....


will it work on this bad puppy?

viewtopic.php?t=14982&highlight=sargent+greenleaf


i could prolly get into that with bolt cutters and my other secret extension to them, i just would have to kill myself for destroying one of those....

ill try and find the brinks shrouded shackle lock that i chewed up after picking it so i can put some pics up......
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i've used bolt cutters that....

Postby unjust » 9 Nov 2006 15:58

will go through a rated 1/2" shackle that was seized before (with a bit of muscle, profanity, and an extension pipe) so i'm inclined to believe that heavy duty cable and bolt cutters will do that lock w/o issue.

the key thing is that the cutting edge(s) of the tool are harder than the material to be cut, and are able to exert enough force to cause one of several types of failures of the target material.

*generally* the harder the material the more brittle it is, meaning that on hardeend steel you can get breaks rather than cuts. (think glass w/ pressure applied vs rubber)
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Postby d_goldsmith » 9 Nov 2006 18:46

What's the heavy duty cable for?
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Postby Stray » 9 Nov 2006 19:39

For tying the lock to your car....


I think he just extended the bold cutter name to "heavy cable and bolt cutters".... but i could be wrong.
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Postby Romstar » 10 Nov 2006 0:23

Stray wrote:For tying the lock to your car....


I think he just extended the bold cutter name to "heavy cable and bolt cutters".... but i could be wrong.


Nope, cable and bolt cutter.

Woven steel cable is a pain in the rear. It is often difficult to cut and requires the same sort of cutter.

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Postby d_goldsmith » 10 Nov 2006 0:53

Ahh. I had to re-read his and your post twice to understand... :lol:

It is a (cable and bolt) cutter that he needs.
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Postby Stray » 10 Nov 2006 0:53

Well I assumed he wrote it as "i have a heavy cable and bolt cutter in my basement. It is good for cutting both heavy cables and bolts...."


But if you say they are two different tools that look the same I'm not going to argue.
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Postby d_goldsmith » 10 Nov 2006 0:57

I was thinking he needed bolt cutters and a heavy duty cable to cut the shackle. Maybe he put the cable in between one side of the cutter and the shackle and somehow that gave the cutters more balance or something. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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