Picking #0 and 7 Pins

[stilte]

I have a 6 pin lockwood cylinder. The first 4 pins can be picked easily. However the 5th pin seems to be a #7 or 8 pin, and the 6th pin is a #0 or 1 pin. No matter what I do, when I try to push the 6th pin, my hook is sure to push the 5th pin past the shear line first.

A long hook seemed to be the way to go, but the lock has a restrictive keyway and I can barely stick a long hook in. Any ideas? I've used normal and slimline picks.

[Mutzy]

Are you using the Standard cylinder profile for all inline cylinder locks? If so, swap your tension tool to the top part of the keyway. This frees up the lower part of the keyway, allowing you more reach. Failing that, find/make yourself a hook with a deep reach.

Do you know what lockwood lock the cylinder is used in?

Does it look like the Lockwood 201 cylinder? Or something different?

Check out Lockwood's website for identification.

Failing that, have you got a camera? Take a pic.

[stilte]

It's a lockwood oval cylinder similar to the one I screwed up a week or so ago. 500 something series. However, the keyway definitely looks like a custom keyway. Think of 2 'Z's, with one Z halfway on the other.

Will get a picture if the keyway is really relevant, but i rather not since my pc isn't exactly state of the art.

I have a spare long hook. Let's see what a little bending does...

[melvin2001]

many people swear that using a half diamond works wonders for this exact situation.

[stilte]

Gave it another shot. The diamond didnt work, so I went around looking desperately for something to use as a hook. Then my eyes fell on my SO jackknife that came with the combo set.

The hook fit into the lock perfectly. Ok not 'perfectly', but good enough to poke the last pin up. This is the first time it was ever useful. That's it, I'm ordering the full slimline set the next time.

[lunchb0x]

if you have a small pin behind i large, the only way to lift the small pin is with a hook pick, try to pick the last chamber first, from how you described it the proflie would be restricted, like JA, JB.
with the half diamond you will not be able to lift the last pin properly

[lunchb0x]

if your after good picks, go for HPC

[UWSDWF]

if your after good picks, go for HPC

I beg to differ I way prefer peterson over HPC...
if your after good picks, go for Peterson

[stilte]

All my picks are SO and I like the feel of metal. Aesthetics aside, I'm concerned that Peterson doesn't offer a good enough selection of hooks.

From lockpicks.com, SO has 6 hook-shaped slimline picks, whereas Peterson's Just Picks set has only 2 hooks. I won't be using their 2 rakes either.

[Raccoon]

Peterson makes the exact pick you want for this situation.

http://www.peterson-international.com/p ... d.htm#DCAP

Otherwise, get a slim-line set like you suggested. Be gentle with them.

[stilte]

That's exactly what I need! I promised myself not to spend so much on picks, and spend more on locks, but i just might have to make an exception. Southord's 25% discount does look really tempting. Hmm... got to think of ways to treat myself for the holidays

[Romstar]

You could always sit on your duff and wait until my stuff comes out in Mid January or first of Febuary.

Romstar

[melvin2001]

nice shameless plug by romstar... not to mention i obviously have first dibs... (dont forget i have that picture now rom...)

[Romstar]

It is a shameless plug.

Bear in mind that my first market is the hobbiest crowd. I am just hoping that it spills over into the locksmith and LEO supply as well.

That means I am starting with a smaller audience.

Oh, and as for the picture, a lot of people have seen it now, and to be honest, I can't imagine for a single moment what I would be worried about. I'm proud of the way my wife looks in that picture thank you.

Romstar

[Raccoon]

Consider creating an article on lockwiki.info about your product, and allow others to post their reviews.

Oh yes. This too is a shameless plug. www.lockwiki.info