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Specialty tools??

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Specialty tools??

Postby Bomberman » 30 Jan 2004 13:40

I just ordered my first set of lock picks... I'm on my way out to pick up a Weiser deadbolt. I was wondering if anybody knows where to get some of the specialty tools that are used to disassemble deadbolts. One is like a sleve that fits inside the lock after you take the key part out... It just holds the top pins in place so they don't fall everywhere... Also, the tool that is used to unscrew the nut on the back of deadbolts. It pushes the pin down at the same time as you turn it... It makes everything a lot easier...

If anybody knows where to get these, please let me know..
Thanks
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Postby Grudge » 30 Jan 2004 13:58

The folks at http://changealock.com/ make lock rekeying kits that usually have all of the stuff you will need (special tools to remove the core from door knobs, plug followers, pins, instructions) for Kwikset, Weiser, etc. They are available from Home Depot for about $10 or directly from that web site.

I am only familiar with the Kwikset kit, but it contained everything I needed (besides a screwdriver) to get everything apart.

Good Luck :)
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Postby Mad Mick » 30 Jan 2004 18:13

Bomberman, if you can handle a pair of scissors, you can make yourself a plug follower from a soda/beer can, as described previously on this forum. I don't remember who posted it, so I don't know who to give the credit to, but here goes:

Cut the top and bottom from an aluminium can and discard them.
Cut the cylinder you now have lengthwise.
Wrap it tightly around a pencil, or similarly sized rod (without cutting your fingers).

You now have an expandable plug follower which will fit practically any cylinder.

How to use:
After any securing fixtures have been removed from the plug, insert the key. Or pick the pins and rotate the plug slightly.
Push the 'plug follower' against the rear of the plug and adjust it to the same size.
As you withdraw the plug, push the follower in without creating any gap.

Plug installation is the reverse procedure.

As for removing the 'nut', the cheap Truguard deadbolts I have appear to be the same as the Weiser's you describe. You can hold the detent pin down with a small electrician's screwdriver, and unscrew the 'nut' quite easily.

Hope this helps and saves you a few $'s.
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby macaba » 31 Jan 2004 10:00

I went shopping today and brought myself some very el-cheapo locks with the intention of taking them apart totally and seeing how long it takes to put them back together, as well as seeing if i could make them a lot more secure by putting very high, and very low pins next to each other and other things.

I came up with another plug follower source- a Hex Socket set. I found a socket that was exactly the same size as my lock plug. Easy! In case you are wondering 'What the hell is...' Here:
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It case you were wondering, putting all the pins back in was a lot easier than you think, as the manufacturer had the decency to put a slot on the back of the plug which you put the pin and spring on (with tweezers), find a small screwdriver, and push them into the hole. Easy!
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Postby Varjeal » 31 Jan 2004 13:19

For weiser deadbolts, a plug-follower can be made from any 1/2" or .500 diamter rod/tubing of any kind. For the retaining cap on the back of the deadbolt, you can either purchase a "cylinder cap removal tool" or simply use a pen or sewing needle or whatever to push the pin down while you unscrew the cap with your hand. (they're not on extremely tight.

At some point I hope we'll have a Buy/sell forum on here and then I can offer some of these easy tools (not picks) for sale.

Good luck. :)
*insert witty comment here*
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Postby CitySpider » 1 Feb 2004 1:20

Varjeal wrote:At some point I hope we'll have a Buy/sell forum on here and then I can offer some of these easy tools (not picks) for sale.


That sounds marvelous.
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