lock idea to impede picking

by **Thano** » 19 Dec 2006 0:54

Just had an idea. Would putting magnets somewhere near the pins, or other related object that has to be picked, impede picking? If so then to what degree? Would it simply be a minor inconvenience that could be easily overcome with a steady hand and careful movements? Or would raking just be the simplest solution? This is all based on the idea that the majority of picks are made of some sort of steel and keys are brass.

The more I think about it the less effective it seems to me. But I don't have an extensive knowledge of lock innards.

by **zeke79** » 19 Dec 2006 1:10

If you were using stainless picks it would have a much less effect on you while picking vs. spring steel picks.

by **2octops** » 19 Dec 2006 1:12

Huh?

I'm not sure what you are asking, but I'll giver t a shot.

If asking about magnatism regarding picking, then not on a standard cylinder since normal pins are brass.

If placement is the question, then yeah, it could be a distraction depending on where you put the magnet.

by **mjwhit** » 19 Dec 2006 1:23

have to be relatively strong i think to work. But some good lateral thinking none the less.

But then people would start making plastic picks or something not magnetic, so really its not that diffucult to get around.

But I suppose its the same for everything, need the right tools :twisted:

by **jackbeef** » 19 Dec 2006 1:26

That would be cool, just make the cylinder a hollow magnet and then when someone sticks a pick into it, the pick just keeps getting stuck to the sides and bottom. I think it would be a minor nuisance to lock picking.

by **JackNco** » 19 Dec 2006 11:49

small magnets loses there ........... power. when knocked about. inserting a key and giving it a few hard taps would render them useless. not to mention keys going in and out a few times a day. after a few months i would have though they would be useless.

As for making the whole lock magnetic..... not sure how this would be done. drilling the holes for the pins would once again make it non magnetic. and magnets are expensive in comparison to brass.

But its a good idea dont get me wrong, just not especially feasible

John

by **UWSDWF** » 19 Dec 2006 12:29

the only solution would be to use a minimum 9000gauss magnet

by **jordyh** » 19 Dec 2006 12:36

I can see it now....
Instead of people asking us how to pick, people will start complaining that they can't get their picks out. :lol:

by **raimundo** » 19 Dec 2006 12:45

now i cant decide whether to make the picks out of titanium or stainless,

by **jordyh** » 19 Dec 2006 12:55

Titanium, due to sheer beauty.

by **JackNco** » 19 Dec 2006 13:13

titanium huh, now that would be cool

by **pizarro** » 19 Dec 2006 16:28

I don't think this would hider lock picking, but it may make a cheap lock bump proof.

What would happen if you make the top abd bottom pins out of magnets. you wouldn't get the snooker ball effect required to have the pins separate at the sheer line. assuning the polarity of the pins are such that they are attracted to eachother. you would only need to replace one of the pin stacks with this to make the lock bump proof.

If you stick another magnet into the pin chanber where the spring should be, you could even get rid of the spring, so long as the magnet would repell the driver pin.

O.K.

there are cheeper ways to make bump proof locks (such as shallow drilling one of the pin stacks randomly)

by **Thano** » 19 Dec 2006 18:51

mjwhit wrote:But then people would start making plastic picks or something not magnetic, so really its not that diffucult to get around.

Yea, that was one of my thoughts as well. But figured something like titanium would be too hard to come across for the average joe, and plastic would be too brittle.

Hmm, what about a electro magnet powered by a (few) watch batteries? Probably would be very strong or die out really fast wouldn't it.

Just random stuff I think about when I'm really bored in class.

by **Father Time** » 19 Dec 2006 20:53

Titanium is rather brittle. Like a file, it has strength, but if you bend it, it will snap. Doesn't flex well. (I ride bikes) Great metal, but it would make for an expensive set of picks. Makes a great bike frame, but $$$.

As for the magnet idea, people would just start using picks made out of non magnetic materials. The effectivness would be short lived.

While there are magnets that could used, its a moot point really.

But, you get the consolation prize. A referral to a site by a magnet lover like me. BIG ones too.

http://www.unitednuclear.com/magnets.htm

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by **d_goldsmith** » 20 Dec 2006 6:22

Earth magnets, and even those awesome NdFeB magnets aren't strong enough to be pins. You could easily break them with good leverage on the keyway.

To bad those are so expensive. I'd love to have a few to play with, even though I'd probably end up frying my electronics with it.

They'd be great for making electric motors.

Thinking of magnets reminded me of something all almost achieved as a kid, and will probably start trying again when I get some spare time, levitation. If you hold an iron object below a magnet, in air, you can probably balance it between gravity and the magnetic force, and literally make it levitate. I tried and tried, hoping I could take a picture of it, but it was a pretty difficult balancing act. Maybe with stronger magnets, I could use a heavier object and the balancing might be easier to do.

lock idea to impede picking

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