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Hey guys....What so you think about this lock?

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Hey guys....What so you think about this lock?

Postby hurri » 5 Jan 2007 16:21

I saw this lock searching the Google and it looks interesting.Honestly,I doubt that you can pick this with a tension wrench and a pick.Bump keys maybe?
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http://www.goal-lock.com/seihin/cylinde ... kouzou.jpg
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Postby f0ku5 » 5 Jan 2007 16:36

The company seems to be in japan, never heard of them before. The lock seems to have 3x8=24 pins. So picking will indeed be *very* hard. Bumping might work but you'd certainly have a hard time creating/finding a key.
On top of that I think this lock is classified high security and thus it belongs to the advanced forum. :lol:
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Goal

Postby greyman » 5 Jan 2007 17:19

It is not"classified" - it's the type of lock regularly used on front doors in Japan. Goal is one of the main lock companies in Japan, the othersd being Miwa, Showa and possibly one or two others I can't remember. I guess it's open market now for Kaba clones since the original patent expired ages ago and this 3 x 8 pin tumbler lock is pretty much a striaght clone of Kaba, albeit with a few extra pins. I can't speak for the bumpability of this lock.
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Postby mjwhit » 5 Jan 2007 19:40

id imagine it being bumpable. on the video on the tool website it shows a 15 pin (i think) high security lock easily being bumped.
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 5 Jan 2007 22:39

Man, what locksmith would want to support those? It really shows how elegant disc locks are for high-security.
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 6 Jan 2007 12:59

Gordon Airporte wrote:Man, what locksmith would want to support those? It really shows how elegant disc locks are for high-security.

exactly what i was thinking
pinning that up must be a marathon
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Postby plot » 6 Jan 2007 13:21

I wonder how well that thing will stay togethor... 30 pins or so, thats alot to wear and tear on.
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Postby pauly003 » 6 Jan 2007 14:55

That thing is insane. Talk about a nightmare for picking. Good luck trying to pop that bad boy.
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Postby mjwhit » 6 Jan 2007 17:27

imgine trying to masterkey that thing... :twisted:
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Similar to a Mul T Lock

Postby locksmithliverpool » 6 Jan 2007 20:41

I went to pizza hut where the key had stuck in a screw in cylinder. Basically the screw in the back had come lose causing the plug to come away. I had to get the key out as it was the only one and all locks were keyed alike.
There were pins everywhere lol..
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Postby plot » 7 Jan 2007 13:51

mjwhit wrote:imgine trying to masterkey that thing... :twisted:


i'd just make all but like 5 of the pins identicle on every lock.. :D
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Postby Gordon Airporte » 7 Jan 2007 22:58

Actually it occured to me that, being Japanese, they probably use an equally intricate robot to do the pinning for them :-).
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