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*Video Tutorial* Loading top pins and springs

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*Video Tutorial* Loading top pins and springs

Postby zeke79 » 4 Jul 2007 23:52

Seemed as though this may be a nice addition to the site. This is the most efficient way I have used to do this. Hope it helps someone out.

www.locksportarchives.com/stuff/hosted/pinning.wmv
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Postby Marco » 5 Jul 2007 0:56

Nice work! That's a great guide and is very informative. I'm sure thats going to help a lot of newcomers to lockpicking. Pictures are great, but videos are even better! Hmm perhaps this should be a sticky?
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Postby Mutzy » 6 Jul 2007 11:10

how on earth can you make un-tangle-able springs?

Nice vid though. It's how i've been taught. 8)
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Postby freakparade3 » 6 Jul 2007 11:46

Mutzy wrote:how on earth can you make un-tangle-able springs?


The springs Zeke is talking about are wound very tight and tapered at the ends so they cannot get tangled up with others.
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Postby Mutzy » 6 Jul 2007 19:09

wouldn't that reduce their tension and minimum/maximum compression?
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Postby UWSDWF » 6 Jul 2007 19:46

i can now slisten to zekes voice while i sleep
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Postby JackNco » 6 Jul 2007 19:53

huh, I hadn't thought of pinning from the middle and then going back. maybe ill start repining locks a bit more. ive always hated doing it.
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Postby Mutzy » 6 Jul 2007 21:22

Any locksmiths here that don't repin cylinders this way?
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Postby DarkEyes » 6 Jul 2007 22:38

where did you get that pinning kit?
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Postby UWSDWF » 6 Jul 2007 22:40

just by a glance.. it's lab
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Postby zeke79 » 7 Jul 2007 19:37

Yes it is an LAB schlage OEM kit. Not a color coded kit but an actual schlage specific kit with nickel silver pins. A good investment if you do alot of primus work (nickel silver keys + nickel silver pins) or just do alot of schlage work. IIRC they are about $110 +-.
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Postby kg4boj » 16 Oct 2007 20:24

So how many people actually decode locks by decoding the color coded pins through the keyway? ;-) I use a few universal pinkits, a .003 lab, and I have 2, .005 "woodies" one with deep pin holding spots, the other one is shallow.
I find that woodies, when the latch and hinge works properly, you will NEVER spill pins, witch driving in a town like this, slamming on the brakes frequently etc having a pin kit that can be stored upside down even is a serious asset.

I do have individual pin kits, but I only really use them on jobs where I need factory pins, ie mini IC lock keying jobs... but with my woodie pin kits I have laminated plastic sheets of paper with 2 holes that line up with the pins that hold the masterpin drawer shut, it only shows the propper pin lengths for a particular lock ie kwikset schlage and it has writing under the holes to tell me what the pin lengths and the bitting numbers are. Kind of a rekeying universal pinkit template, very easy to make.
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Postby zeke79 » 16 Oct 2007 20:30

I use the schlage kit for primus mostly. Though anymore i find that i use it when i sell schlage type locks here so i can offer the top quality pins in what I am selling. i find the the color coded kits must be to lesser tolerances and i get tight turning keys more often. I use OEM pins when possible.
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Postby kg4boj » 16 Oct 2007 20:45

So can someone link me to those pins incremented in .001? I have yet to find a set advertized online...
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Postby brainpick » 2 Dec 2007 2:10

Nice... Thanks alot, that trick just made life a little better 8)
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