Unknown "zigzag" Masterlock

by **DrKickflip13** » 19 Nov 2007 21:30

I found this weird Master Lock that I just can't pick. The whole chamber rotates if I try to apply tension. The slot where the key goes is a zigzag shape. I tried googling "zigzag masterlock" and even looked through the master lock catalog and I have no idea where the hell this lock came from or how to pick it. I have had no problems picking master locks until this one please help, thanks!

*I will continue my google search to give you a better idea of what this lock is

by **UWSDWF** » 19 Nov 2007 21:39

try warded pad lock..... not pins in it chief... nothing to put tension on

by **therealmuffinman** » 19 Nov 2007 21:40

i have no idea what you are talking about either so my best suggestion would be to look on the master locks website and try to find their product there. then the people on this site would be able to help you better.

by **globallockytoo** » 19 Nov 2007 21:55

UWSDWF wrote:try warded pad lock..... not pins in it chief... nothing to put tension on

this is the only correct answer......you should listen to your Goa'uld Lord more often!

by **UWSDWF** » 19 Nov 2007 21:58

therealmuffinman wrote:i have no idea what you are talking about either so my best suggestion would be to look on the master locks website and try to find their product there. then the people on this site would be able to help you better.

http://masterlock.com/cgi-bin/product_d ... cat_id=D10

fine then... it's a master lock no 10... link above takes you to the product page... ask for proof... i'll give it too you but i knows my stuff should have just believed me

by **therealmuffinman** » 19 Nov 2007 22:18

UWSDWF wrote:
therealmuffinman wrote:i have no idea what you are talking about either so my best suggestion would be to look on the master locks website and try to find their product there. then the people on this site would be able to help you better.

http://masterlock.com/cgi-bin/product_d ... cat_id=D10

fine then... it's a master lock no 10... link above takes you to the product page... ask for proof... i'll give it too you but i knows my stuff should have just believed me

i was typing my post before you had posted, i just took a long time because i had to eat dinner so i didnt click submit button

i believe you lol

by **gotta** » 20 Nov 2007 1:32

That was the first style of lock I picked at age 10. I made the tool out of a nail, using a hammer and file. Boy was I unhappy when it didn't work in a #7 Master. :oops:

by **raimundo** » 20 Nov 2007 7:45

I think I remember cutting down the keys to one of those master warded locks to make pickers when I was young. but when i found that there are several different zigzags for the curtain, I hammered it flat, which made it wider, so I re cut it to fit and it went into all the different zigzags.

by **maintenanceguy** » 20 Nov 2007 12:49

The zig zag thing that rotates isn't the cylinder, it's just a round cover plate that's not attached to anything. When you put the key in, the key spins this plate but that's not important to the function of the lock. The purpose of the cover plate is to keep the wrong key from going in.

These locks don't have pins. Usually there's just a couple of pieces of spring steel that press against the shackle and fit in a couple of grooves to keep the shackle from opening.

The key for these locks just spreads these pieces of spring steel apart to release the shackle. No other moving parts. Very simple, very insecure.

Each layer of laminated steel in the lock has a hole in the center so the key can go through. Some of these holes are round and some are just flat slots. The key has notches cut along its length to be able to turn where there are just slots.

look up "warded lock picks" on google and you'll see the tools to pick these.

by **DrKickflip13** » 21 Nov 2007 17:50

thanks a lot everyone, it is indeed a warded padlock, specifically http://masterlock.com/cgi-bin/product_d ... cat_id=D10

I'll be googling but hopefully I can make my own tool and not have to purchase a special set

by **raimundo** » 22 Nov 2007 11:51

you can make your own very easily. the dimensions for the width of the T cross pieces is exactly the dimension of one of the laminations, and the distance between that T cross and the second cross (the key has two necessary cross pieces, is spaced either two laminations further along the shaft or three laminations, the model has both varients. width can be taken from the zigzag curtain, and you should make the shaft as wide as the lock will permit. It takes the pressure when you turn the thing, there is no reason to have any part of the shaft above the end T cross piece.

by **DOORDOCTOR** » 27 Nov 2007 7:54

i have an idea on how this kind of lock is picked i have a couple of these as well, what i have observed is that when i turn key that theres a bar in one of the chambers (if u see thers segments on key) that has the bar u need to do is press down towards side of the lock to try to get the shackle to open i have tried picking my own and have not yet made it open.

good luck

maintenanceguy, great discription of the anatomy of a masterlock 10!! hello there fellow nj'ian

by **LeeNo** » 29 Nov 2007 19:57

DrKickflip13 wrote:I'll be googling but hopefully I can make my own tool and not have to purchase a special set

All you have to do to open any Master #10 is file down all the protrusions on the key except for the one at the very tip. File all the other ones down so that they are flush with the main key shaft. That is a skelaton key and it will open any Master #10.

by **brainpick** » 2 Dec 2007 2:45

Just off the top of my head isn't this what double sided picks are for? I have two of these locks a master and a task force that i haven't had the time to pick...

by **DOORDOCTOR** » 2 Dec 2007 5:26

doublesided picks are actually meant for car's ignition and door locks

Unknown "zigzag" Masterlock

Unknown "zigzag" Masterlock

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