Weird Problem, Probably Me Being DUMB

[Infinite.Proof]

Ok so i found this door at a junkyard and got the lock off of it, it looks like an older lock but what the hell, it was a metal door so i figured it was a harder lock....

The sketchy guy at the junkyard didnt care and neither did i for that matter.

So i am picking this wonder of all locks that i got from the scrap yard, and wow i run into problems, how nice.....

OK so to the point, i pick the lock scrubbing sometimes and setting individual pins other times but i usually end up with the same result or no result at all, i get all the pins set (i think) and it has six pins (i think).
The plug will turn a little less that 45 degrees and then STOP, no matter how much torque i put on it with the wrench or with something sturdier, i have turned the plug in both directions and get the same exact result.

My senses are telling me that something is up...some hidden pin? I can feel something in the back of the lock that resists my picks pushing them up no matter what the hell i do, so i stopped trying to push that up before i broke the pick....Any thoughts?



Thats what the lock looks like before and after, this is not the actual lock im using, just a pick of a lock i have that i edited to give you a good idea.

Thanks in advance!

[David_Parker]

Broken cam? Tailpiece or spring? Thats all I can think of. The keyway looks like a schlage...F-series maybe?

-Dave.

[Chucklz]

Turning the wrong way?

[Varjeal]

I would guess turning the wrong way, but if the door has been wrecked and the lock itself works on a clutch-type mechanism, then I would say faulty parts in the lock.

[technik]

take it apart, if springs are bent up and pins all over the place, then its screwed. Open er up, you'll know if its damaged (twisted tail piece etc) I suppose u dont have the key, as you found it, but if you have a similar prblem n e one else, smart thing (or maybe just obvious thing ) would be to see if she functions with the key properly. If it does, then its prbly a security feature. (though not one I've herd of Bfore)

just my 2, take it or leave it

[Infinite.Proof]

Well, half the answers said turning the wrong way, when i told ya'll i turned it both ways with the same result...thats ok though i still appreciate the input, i am guessing that it may be broken, i will get some pics of it soon, within the afternoon. Thanks for the input!

[Infinite.Proof]

Alright so yeah, this is a pic of the lock which is still in a part of the door that i hacksawed it out of



I dont have a before and after picture of when it is jammed, but it will give you an idea of what kind of a door we are dealing with. I am quite sure it is six pin.

Any new tips?

[toomush2drink]

It doesnt look to have turned as much as i first thought are you sure it hasnt got spool pins as that picture reminds me of a yale with spool pins doing what they are designed to do. They let you think you have picked it but you havent.

[CitySpider]

Spool pins would let it turn MAYBE three degrees. Nowhere near forty five. Besides, STRICTLY JUDGING FROM THE KEYWAY, that lock looks like a knockoff.

I'd suggest you take it apart. It's broken anyway, might as well find out why.

[HeadHunterCEO]

top one looks like a yale or schlage lever set.

the tailpiece may be jacked up or more ikelythe handle is installed backwards which expolains why it wil only roatate 45 degrees and is a very common error alythough it is difficult to remove the key when you make that mistake.

[HeadHunterCEO]

top one looks like a yale or schlage lever set.

the tailpiece may be jacked up or more ikelythe handle is installed backwards which expolains why it wil only roatate 45 degrees and is a very common error alythough it is difficult to remove the key when you make that mistake.

just pop the knob off and examine the tailpiece on that one. also check to see of the latch is damged

[Infinite.Proof]

I got it, wasnt using enough torque when i did have it in the right direction, so i used my pocket knife on it one way, wouldnt budge, got it the other way, and BAM.

Old lock, thats what i get i guess.

Oh and i used a scrubbing pick, works like a charm.

[Theist17]

Wait, what do you mean by saying that you "used[ your] pocket knife on it?"

[MacGyver101]

Wait, what do you mean by saying that you "used[ your] pocket knife on it?"

I think he meant that he was using the knife blade or screwdriver blade of his pocket knife in order to provide some additional torque, once he'd successfully picked the lock, rather than risk bending one of his tension wrenches. (He'd already picked the cylinder, but was having difficulty flipping the lock into the "unlocked" position.)

(The original poster hasn't posted anything on LP101 since he made that post, over six years ago, so he's probably not going to reply...)

[unlisted]

Props for actually looking past page two on this forum thou.