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Postby stran9er » 16 Dec 2007 22:43

I am trying to learn how to pick locks. I want to order from lockpickshop.com but I am to indecisive to decide on a book and a set of lock picks.

What do you think the best book/pick set is best for beginners?
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Postby Eyes_Only » 16 Dec 2007 23:44

Do not for any reason buy a book from any site that sells lockpicks. They are a waste of money. You can learn 100 times more from what is contained in this site and on YouTube.

Get yourself a 10 to 14 piece standard pick set and maybe the smallest slimline set they have. Thats all you need. Take it from someone who has spent unnecessary amounts of money on books and picks tools I didn't need.
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Postby zeke79 » 17 Dec 2007 0:02

I agree, do not waste your money on any of the books. If you are going to spring for a book I can highly recommend either LSS (locks safes and security) by Marc Tobias either in book format or on CD or greymans book on high security locks. You can find a link to the book by following the link in greyman's signature as he is a member of this site. Either one of these books will be a great addition to your collection and you will learn far more from those two books than any of the books you are looking at. If you have the cash, I would urge you to buy both of the books. You will not be disappointed and you will not run out of reading material for a good solid year or so of reading!

As far as a pick set goes, follow the above advice and you cannot go wrong. Personally I recommend peterson picks but they are quite a bit more expensive than Southord, Southern Specialties etc. To me though the quality is worth the extra $$$.

What ever you choose, good luck and most of all have fun. This is a wonderful hobby and it is a great way to pass your free time and even cut into time needed for other tasks that you should be doing :lol: .
For the best book out there on high security locks and their operation, take a look at amazon.com for High-Security Mechanical Locks An Encyclopedic Reference. Written by our very own site member Greyman! A true 5 Star read!!
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Postby ilmr » 17 Dec 2007 7:58

Are those beginner books that bad and misinforming? I mean, most of them are really cheap in content but also cheap for your wallet. While I do lurk too many hours on the internet daily, I do prefer paper.

Of course, if you have a printer you could print one of the many documents online, like the LI guide. But still I think it would not be that bad to buy a cheap book, the good thing about those are that you can also borrow them to a friend, have at your summer cottage for future generations etc and it doesn't really cost you much.

When I started out, I saw everyone's opinions that these cheap books are a rip-off and you shouldn't get them, and instead I got LSS, which is a really worth while book, but it also is a somewhat serious investment compared to the booklets that sell for under tenth of the price.
And LSS is really worth while only if you are seriously interested in all aspects of locks and security. (Which is needed of course to be an advanced picker)

Uhh, I hope that made any sense :)
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Postby Eyes_Only » 17 Dec 2007 9:24

The only good thing about those books are maybe the pictures but then again like previously stated, the LI and MIT guide does a way way waaaaay better job. And they're both free.

Think of it this way. Those paper books were written not just to teach someone how to pick locks but also to make money. The LI and MIT guides are written just to teach cos no one makes any money off of them.
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Postby stran9er » 17 Dec 2007 18:49

Ok thanks guys... I'm just gonna use the MIT guide on here...
Now what pick set would be best for a beginner....
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Postby Raymond » 18 Dec 2007 1:54

Get the smallest set you can find. After you have gained some experience you will know what other picks and turning tools you need to pick more efficiently. Keep reading all these posts. Plan on building your own set, and I mean making them yourself. Then you will get exactly what you want.

Nothing else can match the bliss of sucessfully opening a difficult lock with a pick you made personally.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 18 Dec 2007 8:43

This is a good set to start with, http://www.lockpickshop.com/PXS-14.html . And if you add the coupon code "LP101" in the order form you'll get 10% off your order.
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Postby stran9er » 18 Dec 2007 19:11

Ok, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the PXS-14 lock pick set.
Is there anything else I should buy? Lock pick grips? Or anything?
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Postby Eyes_Only » 18 Dec 2007 20:39

Not really. For a standard pin tumbler lock the pick set I showed you will do the job just fine. Probably about 70% to 80% of most locks, unless you start to branch out onto other locks.

But for now just stick to Master, Kwikset, Schlage and knockoff brands of such and you'll be ok.
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Postby LeeNo » 18 Dec 2007 21:05

stran9er wrote:Ok, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the PXS-14 lock pick set.
Is there anything else I should buy? Lock pick grips? Or anything?


IMHO, you might as well spring for the PXS-17 Because the case is so much better. The PXS-14 has a single flap case that is very tight (I bought this for my brother for christmas).
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Postby stran9er » 19 Dec 2007 6:32

I was thinking about the PSX 17 but didn't know if it was worth it :lol:
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Postby delocking » 19 Dec 2007 8:21

I'd recommend a good selection of tension wrenches.

Just received the following from lockpickshop.com and they are very useful:
LTTM-03 - LAB Medium Turning Tool .125
LTTM-02 - Medium Turning Tool .093
LTTM-01 - Medium Turning Tool .078
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Postby LeeNo » 21 Dec 2007 0:14

stran9er wrote:I was thinking about the PSX 17 but didn't know if it was worth it :lol:
Your set of picks isn't just the set that you buy. It is every individual pick you buy from that moment on. And having a sturdy case large enough to accomodate future individual picks that you will buy is important.

The only reason I only bought my brother the PXS-14 is that I don't know if he will really get into picking or not. If he does, I expect he will quickly buy a better case for his picks.
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Postby stran9er » 21 Dec 2007 17:36

LeeNo wrote:
stran9er wrote:I was thinking about the PSX 17 but didn't know if it was worth it :lol:
Your set of picks isn't just the set that you buy. It is every individual pick you buy from that moment on. And having a sturdy case large enough to accomodate future individual picks that you will buy is important.

The only reason I only bought my brother the PXS-14 is that I don't know if he will really get into picking or not. If he does, I expect he will quickly buy a better case for his picks.


So your saying buy a bigger case?
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