Lock dust?

[Gelmar]

When I work on my practice locks occassionally i'll end up rubbing my fingertips on the tools and i've found that after i work with them for long periods of time (the tools) there is a fine substance similar to pencil lead (ground up). I wanted to know of this is damage or just lubricant that came with the lock. I am always very light handed when I pick, and seldom use even a mild scraping motion to try to rake open locks.

[Trip Doctor]

It's either graphite lock lubricant, or brass shavings from the pick slightly scratching the inside of the lock (not really a big deal, especially on a practise lock).

[josh0094]

never hurts to super sand them...

[lockeymoto]

Graphite, dont get this on your carpet. It wont come out!

[zsoutendijk]

same thing happens with my schlage deadbolt, never gave me any trouble but i did try to clean it out because it was oily and i didnt want it to get above the pins, i would use a pipecleaner to clean it out, if you disasemble the lock it would be easier.

hope this helps

-Zack

[gstrendkill]

i get the same thing when i rake locks open

[tecnovist]

If they are brass locks it could be lead as lead is used as a free mechaining agent in the brass its self ----and some old brasses have a lot in the brass and it getson you skin if you handle the brass a lot ------------------------ Graphite,or lub is the most likely thing

[Proctor]

I have this on my master 140

[Beyond]

I replaced a cylinder yesterday at a local grocery store that had been there since 1995 and been opened at least 20-30 times a day. It wouldn't open anymore because the keys, over time, had ground the bottom pins up so much that they no longer maintained their original size.

When we took out the cylinder there were just tons of brass flakes that came out. I should have taken pictures, the pins were so malformed. They almost looked like the Medeco Biaxial pins.

[digital_blue]

Reminds me of the poor Schlage Everest at Defcon a couple years ago. Most of the newbies picking locks had no idea what an Everest was, so that poor thing had a crapload of brass shavings coming out of it.

db

[freakparade3]

I replaced a cylinder yesterday at a local grocery store that had been there since 1995 and been opened at least 20-30 times a day. It wouldn't open anymore because the keys, over time, had ground the bottom pins up so much that they no longer maintained their original size.

When we took out the cylinder there were just tons of brass flakes that came out. I should have taken pictures, the pins were so malformed. They almost looked like the Medeco Biaxial pins.

I did the same thing a few months back on a keyed entry condo building. The pins were squared off. Even though I keyed the new lock the same the old keys were so worn also they would not work. Had to cut all new ones.

[Gelmar]

Reminds me of the poor Schlage Everest at Defcon a couple years ago. Most of the newbies picking locks had no idea what an Everest was, so that poor thing had a crapload of brass shavings coming out of it.

db

What is the best way to deal with the check pin in the Schlage everest lock? Would you have to have a specific tool to operate the check pin or is there something that you can do which is more improvisional, or with normal tools?

[Beyond]

Reminds me of the poor Schlage Everest at Defcon a couple years ago. Most of the newbies picking locks had no idea what an Everest was, so that poor thing had a crapload of brass shavings coming out of it.

db

What is the best way to deal with the check pin in the Schlage everest lock? Would you have to have a specific tool to operate the check pin or is there something that you can do which is more improvisional, or with normal tools?

Best one I saw was on Matt Blaze's website.

You can see that here: http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/everest/torque-key.html

It's basically the bottom half of the key utilized as a torque wrench and a tool to catch that check pin.

[Gelmar]

What kind of tools would it take to shave that down like he did? I doubt I could work that out with my manual file :/

[Beyond]

What kind of tools would it take to shave that down like he did? I doubt I could work that out with my manual file :/

Dremel?