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homemade picks rusting... :-/

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homemade picks rusting... :-/

Postby Timmy321 » 15 Jun 2004 16:26

they haven't gotten wet or anything...what can I do? I don't want to keep sanding them...anything I can coat them with??

I've kept them dry...




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Postby Anarchyvocals » 15 Jun 2004 16:30

Its not water that makes things rust, but a chemical reaction between Iron/ steel and air.

If you work at Zebart, just spray a little anti rust cotin on em. Im sure the boss wont mind...

Another option is to cover the pick with shrinkwrap, but it dosnt last long.

Finally, you can put on a coating. Paint primer has worked well for me, and at your local lowes and home depot i'm sure they'd have anti-rust spray coatings.
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Postby Timmy321 » 15 Jun 2004 16:36

no I don't work at that place you were talking about....

I just need an anti rust coating that won't mess up the pick or the lock...or cause me any trouble while pickin'


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Postby Chucklz » 15 Jun 2004 16:50

Gun Bluing works for many people.

http://www.shootersolutions.com/vaningunblu.html

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Postby obcessedwithcoffee » 15 Jun 2004 16:58

Actually I find the best thing that works is the plastic coating you find on the handles of tools.

It's called Plasticoat.

You can find it at www.caswellplating.com

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Postby frollard » 15 Jun 2004 17:17

theres always good ol' oil. not lots as to make them noticably gooey, but a light coating keeps them sealed from the air, and wont 'come off' in locks (in a bad way at least).
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Postby Timmy321 » 15 Jun 2004 17:25

ok well it's mainly on the pick end where I sanded the paint off...
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Postby Timmy321 » 15 Jun 2004 17:29

frollard wrote:theres always good ol' oil. not lots as to make them noticably gooey, but a light coating keeps them sealed from the air, and wont 'come off' in locks (in a bad way at least).


like motor oil, machine oil, gun oil....what type...?
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Postby Chucklz » 15 Jun 2004 17:31

If you blue them , I've found that they need very little other treatment. Any light, non biological oil, will work fine.
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Postby Mad Mick » 15 Jun 2004 18:47

Unless you have a nice bifold/trifold etc. wallet, wrapping your picks in a lightly oiled cloth when not in use, will keep them in a rust free state.
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Postby frollard » 15 Jun 2004 19:29

Chucklz wrote:If you blue them , I've found that they need very little other treatment. Any light, non biological oil, will work fine.


exactly.

EVEN biological oil will work - canola oil will keep a cast iron pan from rusting...just it will break down sooner..(LONG time, it'll come off sooner than it becomes non-rust inhibiting.
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Postby CaptHook » 15 Jun 2004 19:52

Be careful using vegatable or organic oils, they will eventually go rancid on you and you will have a stink/and or mold to wash off. There are several options, Chucklz cold bluing is a good choice, try Birchwood Casey products at the sporting goods/gun counter area of your local department store. Or just use a protective oil such as breakfree. Put a light coating on there before you pick and it will lightly lube the lock as you pick.
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Rusting picks

Postby Romstar » 15 Jun 2004 19:54

Highly polished steel takes a long time to rust. With the exception of anywhere you handle the pick with your fingers. The oils in your skin will actually promote rusting almost immediately.

Now, in order to combat this, finish the picks with 00 steel wool, or a scotch brite pad. Both of these will produce a finish that is resistant to significant rusting. However, anywhere you handle the pick, and do not wipe it off will begin to tarnish and eventually rust.

The best option is simply gun blue. This stuff is available at any Walmart in the sporting goods section. If you can't find it there, you WILL find it anywhere you can purchase firearms and ammuntion.

A choice option for many people if you wish to keep the polished finish is a small areosol can of clear coat paint. You can pick this up in touch up size cans and it is more than enough to coat several picks. Be sure to wash the picks with rubbing alcohol before painting, and handle them with gloves.

For a simple rust proof handle, tool dip is an excellent choice. It is available in a variety of colours, including black, blue, red, yellow and I believe green.

Also, you have several other choices, including tape, paint and light oilings.

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Postby Timmy321 » 15 Jun 2004 22:30

what exactly is blueing and how hard is it? will it discolor the picks? will it damage the locks? how much is it? someone fill me in on blueing...


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Postby Chucklz » 15 Jun 2004 22:50

Blueing gives you an oxide coating. Probably several times harder than the steel, possibly even thousands of times. That depends on the type of steel, etc. But remember that the blueing is going to be less than a micron thick. It definately colors the pick. It will go from , hopefully, shiny steel to ....well gun metal blue. This is close to the color of HPC or Peterson picks.
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