What kind of lock is this?

[SalaKrestu]

Hello guys! I've been looking for the name of this kind of lock for a while now... I have it on my front door and I just want to find more information about it, I want to know if it safe -relatively speaking of course- or not. I admit I've become a little bit paranoid since I found out how easy it is to pick a lock. But since I don't know the name of the lock I can't find much about it. It looks like this:

http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gardesa.jpg

There is no name/logo on the lock nor on the key.

[unlisted]

Heh, I don't know what it is, but I want one.

[SalaKrestu]

I forgot to mention that it came with the door and it looks like t oreplace it you have to disassemble the door. It is also pretty old... I have it since 1987!

[sfi72]

It looks like some kind of double-bitted 10 lever lock.

[jpb06080]

It looks like motturra.

[mh]

Do you live in Southern Europe? Such locks are popular there.

Maybe if you open the door, you find the manufacturer's name engraved on the side?
(And it's probably stamped on the key?)

Also, it's usually not a good idea to post a picture of a key.

Cheers,
mh

[SalaKrestu]

Do you live in Southern Europe? Such locks are popular there.

I used to, but not anymore unfortunately.

Maybe if you open the door, you find the manufacturer's name engraved on the side?

There is "gardesa" on the door but it is the name of the manufacturer. I tried to google it but I wasn't able to find out the name of this kind of lock... It looks like some sort of lever key though. Perhaps sfi72 is right.

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Also, it's usually not a good idea to post a picture of a key.

Yup, I guess you are right.. thanks for the advice!

[raimundo]

Looks like mottura, look for doppiamappa on youtube, he picks them, but don't worry that some common thief will be able to pick it. does it have four or five round bolts, and the key needs to be turned about 720 degrees to open it?

[SalaKrestu]

Looks like mottura, look for doppiamappa on youtube, he picks them, but don't worry that some common thief will be able to pick it. does it have four or five round bolts, and the key needs to be turned about 720 degrees to open it?

I took a look at the videos and it seems that he is dealing with exactly the same locks I have on my doors. It needs to be fully turned three times by the way. The lock manufacturer should be Cisa... I would love to buy one of these locks just to have some fun with it, but they cost a small fortune! Perhaps if I find a very cheap model I will think about it!

Thank you guys! As usual you proved to be really competent!

[SalaKrestu]

Ah, I forgot to ask you one thing: years ago I've been told to not leave the key inside the keyhole because it would be easier for a thief to pick the lock from the other side of the door. Can you confirm this?

[mh]

Ah, I forgot to ask you one thing: years ago I've been told to not leave the key inside the keyhole because it would be easier for a thief to pick the lock from the other side of the door. Can you confirm this?

Obviously, in that case someone could potentially grab the key stem from the outside and turn it.
And / or push it so that it falls down and then pull it out if there is a gap on the bottom of the door.

Cheers,
mh

[SalaKrestu]

I was asking this because to turn this keys you need more strenght than you would usually need with a normal tumbler lock, and from the outside it looks like there is not enough space to grab it, if the key is in the keyhole. Because of this I thought it was very unlikely that somebody could manipulate the key from the outside. And surely the whole keyring wouldn't slip under the door. But anyway, if you say it is not safe, I trust you.

[mh]

I'm not saying it's easily done, but think of someone drilling a hole or 2 holes into the key stem and grab that or them, this would allow enough torque to be applied.

[SalaKrestu]

I haven't thought about that! I get your point, you made it crystal clear. Thanks!