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tension vs torson

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tension vs torson

Postby LocksmithArmy » 26 Jun 2009 23:46

whats the difference? y do you use 2 names or is there a difference in tools

ive seen people use both names in the same post so whats the difference?
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby apb » 27 Jun 2009 0:11

As far as I know they're just different terms used for the same tool. Any tool that is used to turn or rotate the plug.
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby tjweaver84 » 27 Jun 2009 0:56

They are the same thing. Different manufacturers just use different names. Tension, torsion, torque wrenches are all the same tool in the world of lockpicking
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby LocksmithArmy » 27 Jun 2009 4:06

I thought a torque wrench was used to fix cars... j/k

thats wht i figured
thanks
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Jun 2009 10:58

LocksmithArmy wrote:I thought a torque wrench was used to fix cars... j/k


It is, and with it you can adjust the amount of foot pounds that you will exert rotationally onto the wheel's lug nuts. I believe the pickers who use the term torque wrench or torsion wrench are trying to get away from using tension wrench, as tension is not the force we are actually applying when picking a lock. (Example: A bridge is something that is under tension, which means the deck of the bridge is being stretched length wise by the weight sitting on top of the bridge, or that the metal re-bar in it's concrete deck is pre-tensed or pre-stretched, which adds strength.) As you can see this has little to do with rotating a plug on a lock, but somewhere along the history of lockpicking and locksmithing someone coined the term "tension wrench" and it stuck.

I think it boils down to "I know what you mean" when someone says tension wrench. I use that term, but I also use the term turning tool when I'm explaining to someone how lock picking tools work.

For those of you who have never seen a torque wrench used to tighter the nuts on a car tire, here's an example. You can mentally substitute the wheel for a lock, the lug nut for a keyway and the torque wrench for a lockpicking tension wrench, and there you have it, just a tool to apply CW or CCW/ACW rotational force so that pins will bind against the wall of the plug while picking (binding order), and when each is set, will rotate the plug just a small enough distance so the driver pins can't "fall" back down, and when they're ALL set, the lock is picked, and the "tension wrench" continues to rotate the plug so that the cam or tailpiece can retract a bolt, or rotate enough degrees to unlock whatever kind of mechanism they were designed to interact with.

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Re: tension vs torson

Postby LocksmithArmy » 27 Jun 2009 23:21

hole cow man that is alot of info on a non related tool...

but you gave me more insight into the tension delima... turning tool is definatly the term of choice... thanks alot

(and the tourque wrench thing was a joke)
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby thedominator7a » 28 Jun 2009 4:24

Tension and torsion are word to describe the force placed on the tension wrench. e.g lighter tension and heavy tension..
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Re: tension vs torson

Postby straightpick » 28 Jun 2009 22:52

Technically, the correct term is torsion wrench. Torsion is the force that tends to turn one end or part about a longitudinal axis while the other end is held fast or turning in the opposite direction.

Torque is the force that tends to produce rotation or torsion.

Tension is the force causing or tending to cause extension (pulling apart).

But I still call them tension wrenches! :)
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