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Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

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Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby sampb92 » 2 Sep 2009 3:08

Hi i am just starting the lock picking hobby. It started the other day when i opened my front door lock ($100 master lock) with a bobby pin lol. any way my question is should i get a pick gun or a lock pick set? either one or the other can not be both. i will use it to open pan locks and house door type locks. is this gun any good? its very cheap http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.17606 i want to stay in the $20s cant spend much at this point. thanks alot and post links to cheap products if you know any!
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby LocksmithArmy » 2 Sep 2009 3:16

I wont bore you with an explination as many other people will give you better ones than me... just go with the pick set for now... If you are wanting to learn actual picks are the way to go.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby sampb92 » 2 Sep 2009 3:30

thanks any other ideas? i also just sew a comb pick on youtube what do you think of them? here is a set http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16422
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby Jaakko » 2 Sep 2009 3:59

If you want to learn picking, buy the pick set. Other tools are basicly just novelty items for a hobbyist, meaning buy them once you have money and interest and know what they are used for.

IMHO a hobby picker doesn't need a pick gun or a set of comb picks. It is fun to try them once or twice, but after that it gets boring.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby raimundo » 2 Sep 2009 7:25

comb picks will open certain very specific locks and no others, these locks that open for comb picks are flawed, and can be redesigned to prevent comb picking, they should be.
comb picking is a cheap trick used on cheap locks and requires no skill,

power tool picks are not for skilled picking, they are for people who are firmly convinced that they cannot pick a lock without a power tool
hobbiests, do not brag about using power tools.
even the power tool requires some knowlege, you cannot bind the tension and make it work well, you need to use light and variable tork.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby thelockpickkid » 2 Sep 2009 10:08

Seems every 3rd person who joins here wants a electric pick or pick gun somewhere within there first 5 posts. Listen guys, if it was easy to pick locks, everybody would be doing it! If they opened so easy, everybody would have a pick gun or electo pick!! If it was so easy locksmiths wouldn't do lockouts! Just because you find some deal for junk on Dealextreme doesn't mean you are just going to push a button or pull a trigger and a lock is just going to fall off!! If you really want to open a lock, practice, practice, get a small set of lockpicks and try. Don't be lazy, put some effort into it!! Go to www.lockpickshop.com, find a small set of southord picks, buy a few cheap locks and have an honest go at it.
Shoot first ask questions later! Thelockpickkid
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby sampb92 » 2 Sep 2009 12:26

Thanks you guy for the tip ill get the picks then other things in the future! thanks again for the fast replays.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby lock2006 » 2 Sep 2009 15:49

Well i did the samething, when you starting out picking
everyone just want to go the easy way out,i did the same thing
when i started to pick lock
I remember i got one of those Pick Gun then i got an electric pick gun
now i don't even used then at all
i have them sitting in my tool box
but like i said when you starting pick locks
you want to try all of this novelty items
i can tell you not to buy it,but until you try that tool and play for awhile with that tool and find out
what feedback you get from that tool
that's when you will be able to tell if that tool is worth it or not
i hope this helps.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby sampb92 » 2 Sep 2009 18:39

Hi now can someone tell me what a Depth key is used for? saw them on ebay but know idea what its for. Are they Bump keys?
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby LocksmithArmy » 2 Sep 2009 18:57

its used for cutting keys from code
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby lock2006 » 2 Sep 2009 20:58

Just another name for Bump keys.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby thelockpickkid » 2 Sep 2009 21:07

lock2006 wrote:Just another name for Bump keys.


Excuse me?? They are for making keys by code on a manual key machine, they help give you the proper spacing and depth when you generate a key for somebody with just the code, or cut depths. I don't know who the hell ever told you that is another name for a bump key!
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby Schuyler » 2 Sep 2009 22:07

thelockpickkid wrote:
lock2006 wrote:Just another name for Bump keys.


Excuse me?? They are for making keys by code on a manual key machine, they help give you the proper spacing and depth when you generate a key for somebody with just the code, or cut depths. I don't know who the hell ever told you that is another name for a bump key!


I am confident he didn't mean anything by it. Unfortunately a lot of people, ever since eBay banned bump keys, have sold "depth keys" that just happen to only be cut to the 9s. It's changed the meaning for a lot of non-lockies getting their first exposure to the term via eBay or someone's post about the "depth" key they just bought.
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby thelockpickkid » 2 Sep 2009 22:14

Schuyler wrote:
thelockpickkid wrote:
lock2006 wrote:Just another name for Bump keys.


Excuse me?? They are for making keys by code on a manual key machine, they help give you the proper spacing and depth when you generate a key for somebody with just the code, or cut depths. I don't know who the hell ever told you that is another name for a bump key!


I am confident he didn't mean anything by it. Unfortunately a lot of people, ever since eBay banned bump keys, have sold "depth keys" that just happen to only be cut to the 9s. It's changed the meaning for a lot of non-lockies getting their first exposure to the term via eBay or someone's post about the "depth" key they just bought.


OH, now I understand, some people must have just been selling a single depth key on ebay, that just so happened to be cut to the lowest depths! I understand now! Now I feel dumb! Just a way to sell bump keys, in disguise!
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Re: Lock Pick Set Or A Pick Gun

Postby sampb92 » 2 Sep 2009 22:47

Thanks so much! im making my own picks and saving some green. I made a rake so far and it works great. thanks again and will show you guys how they turn out!
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