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Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

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Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby -Diesel- » 9 Sep 2009 22:17

So what is the main reason that somebody would get a pick over a bumpkey (fun aside)? I've seen bumpkeys in action and they are VERY Very easy. I'm sure that lockpicks have something that make them the better choice over the two. Help please :?:
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby tballard » 9 Sep 2009 22:26

Why learn math when you can just buy a calculator?
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby -Diesel- » 9 Sep 2009 22:30

tballard wrote:Why learn math when you can just buy a calculator?



Well the calc doesn't do all the work for you...

You still need to know the math, the calc just gives you shortcuts.

But seriously, any help please?
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby ElbowMacaroni » 9 Sep 2009 22:36

I think you just made tballard's point...
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Sep 2009 22:37

We pick not because it is easy, but because it is difficult.

Bump keys were popular about 3 years ago.. its just a fad. Also, good luck getting bump keys for high end locks with restricted keyways.

Why do you need picks and bump keys anyway, what are you trying to get in to? We pick locks that we own, padlocks and cylinders that we collect and put up on the shelf or coffee table. This isn't a site of people who walk up to doors and show off to friends how they can pick each other's apartment door.

We pick because it is a challenge, like solving a rubik's cube, breaking encryption, or because the lock manufacturer claims it is nearly impossible to pick their locks. We buy them and pick them.

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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby ElbowMacaroni » 9 Sep 2009 22:40

oh and to elucidate a bit... from what I hear, and it seems reasonable to me, is that the novelty wears off fast.

I've thought about it, but I know myself well enough that I'd use it once or twice then it would be set aside probably forever. Not to mention that you need a bump key for every different keyway configuration, so you would need alot of them, they're not just generic to any lock.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby ElbowMacaroni » 9 Sep 2009 22:43

squelchtone wrote:We pick not because it is easy, but because it is difficult.

Bump keys were popular about 3 years ago.. its just a fad. Also, good luck getting bump keys for high end locks with restricted keyways.

Why do you need picks and bump keys anyway, what are you trying to get in to? We pick locks that we own, padlocks and cylinders that we collect and put up on the shelf or coffee table. This isn't a site of people who walk up to doors and show off to friends how they can pick each other's apartment door.

We pick because it is a challenge, like solving a rubik's cube, breaking encryption, or because the lock manufacturer claims it is nearly impossible to pick their locks. We buy them and pick them.

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Yeah, exactly. I may be realtively new to this, but that's probably better than I put it.

Also, I'd much rather be picking my locks than breaking encryption. Well, any useful encryption anyways... some encryption techniques are fairly easily broken.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby unlisted » 9 Sep 2009 22:45

(no joke here)

I have over 120 bumpkeys, for different keyways.

I have used them -once- to try - on one lock. Thats it.

Now they hang on the keyboard with the other collector keys. (I collect both keys and locks)

I agree, its way to easy, almost like a "fad" with the popularity, and well, its just not picking a lock open. Not the same sense of accomplishment.

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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby ElbowMacaroni » 9 Sep 2009 22:50

I have a pet rock if you're interested!
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby Eyes_Only » 11 Sep 2009 9:41

I think bump keys are looked down on somewhat in the locksport community cos people who pledge their devotion to bump keys are viewed like how script kiddie's are viewed in the hacker community.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby jdislandlock » 11 Sep 2009 11:29

ElbowMacaroni wrote:I think you just made tballard's point...


lol thats what i was going to say but then i read that...
Its hard to use a pick and wrench if u dont kow what you are doing
same could be said with a bump key....
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby WOT » 6 Oct 2009 22:24

The question is like why bother with manual transmission when you can get from point A to point B with an automatic car.

People here pick locks not to be able to bypass them, but to enjoy the process of it. Pick guns and bump keys are useful in the trade and it accomplishes A to B goal, but nothing else.

They're seen like a motorcycle rider who rides along in a bicycle ride.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby magician59 » 22 Oct 2009 16:18

Not intending to beat a dead horse: Imagine this scenario: Your neighbor, who has had many beers at your cook-outs, and knows you have a "way with locks", calls you late at night, locked out of his house. Schlage F-series locks on the door. You run to get your SC1 bump key. After you have bumped your key a hundred times (and your thumb is now the size of a small lemon), he asks you, "Don't you have those twisty tools the TV detectives use?"

Better example yet: Try bumping open your wife's BMW.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby WOT » 22 Oct 2009 16:31

magician59 wrote:Not intending to beat a dead horse: Imagine this scenario: Your neighbor, who has had many beers at your cook-outs, and knows you have a "way with locks", calls you late at night, locked out of his house. Schlage F-series locks on the door. You run to get your SC1 bump key. After you have bumped your key a hundred times (and your thumb is now the size of a small lemon), he asks you, "Don't you have those twisty tools the TV detectives use?"

Better example yet: Try bumping open your wife's BMW.


But the problem would be solved if you had 35-100-L stainless steel bump key.
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Re: Besides the fun.. Why would you get a pick over a bumpkey??

Postby MacGnG1 » 22 Oct 2009 18:49

i like picking cause its challenging but i would love to give some bump keys a try. i would think that the real reason ppl use bump keys is cause its definitely a quick and impressive show.
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