Finnish security officer certification / turvasuojaajakortti

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Hi,
does anyone have experience with Finnish security officer certification?
http://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/ ... endocument (English)

Turvasuojaajakortti in Finnish:
http://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/ ... endocument

Is it recognised internationally and does it give you any actual benefits in Finland?

I've given some thought in acquiring one, but would not want to waste 34 euros if it is of no use.

Thanks a lot for your help!

[Jaakko]

Hi fellow Finn

I think it is considered as of some sort "proof" of your background in ELF (Europen Locksmith Federation), but this is just my own guess.

In practice you don't have to have it to do locksmithing work in Finland, but is is assumed generally that a locksmith has it, as it proves that you don't have criminal background with the police. If you are ever going to be an Abloy certified (or Kaba or else), you have to have the card.

34 euros per five years isn't that bad You just have to have an employer or yourself has to be a practicing security person (locksmith or such) to get it.

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Hi fellow Finn
34 euros per five years isn't that bad You just have to have an employer or yourself has to be a practicing security person (locksmith or such) to get it.

Thanks for the info!

I'm not a locksmith, but I do work in a security position. Do you know if there's difference between working for a locksmith or being an "internal" security person in a company which is not in physical security business (when it comes to "turvasuojaajakortti")?

[Jaakko]

I'm not a locksmith, but I do work in a security position. Do you know if there's difference between working for a locksmith or being an "internal" security person in a company which is not in physical security business (when it comes to "turvasuojaajakortti")?

It depends, but I'm 80% sure you will not get it. A friend of mine applied for that card as he handles sensitive information with servers and he did not get it as police thought the workplace is not related to security field as such.

But it won't hurt to try

[svc]

I work for small international corporation, and I tried to get the card as I have a root account for many access control servers also to companies which legally aren't my employers. The police agreed that people in my position would need some kind of security clearance, but finnish law does give no possibility for granting the card. Even criminal police or finnish security service (SUPO) refuse make any kind of statements if I'm trustworthy enough.
So in Finland you are trusted until proven guilty...

[Wizer]

It´s weird if police won´t give you a statement that you have no criminal record. They give it to bus drivers, and I think kindergarden teatchers, so why not you? It is not the turvasuojaaja-card, but at least you have a paper that says you have not committed any serious crimes. I had to get that when applying for bus driver course a few years back, and showed it in another job interwiev just to let them know I´m no criminal.
-Wizer

[svc]

True. I'ts strange.
We just take care of intellectual property worth millions of euros.