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Where do you find cutaway locks?

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Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby eppiotic » 31 Jan 2010 13:38

I see several sites selling standard cutaway locks like Schlage C, but there are tons of pictures and videos of high security locks so they have to be available somewhere. Any suggestions?
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby loki-aka » 31 Jan 2010 15:49

Some of the better cutaways are handmade by lock hobbiest, much like some of the finely crafted picks made by members of this forum.

Since you already posted about the subject, I think you'll see some postings about buying them, soon.

A finely made cutaway, especially of something like a MTL Interactive is, truly, a beauty.
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby loki-aka » 31 Jan 2010 16:19

Additional note on cutaways. should have mentioned in last post. sorry.

Try contacting the lock mfg. Their marketing people might be of help.
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby inverseentropy » 31 Jan 2010 18:59

You can find some on ebay. If you hurry you can get this one:
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid ... oy+cutaway

There are also a few here:
https://securitysnobs.com/Cutaway-Locks/

You have to be willing to pay for them, especially for the ones in that second link.
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby Eyes_Only » 1 Feb 2010 5:47

I got mines at http://www.LearnLocks.com . The ones that have more material cut out tends to be weaker so you can't put heavy tension on them or you'll force the driver pins out of its upper chamber and totally mess it up.

But these are great for showing people who are clueless about locks on how they work and what happens inside a lock as they are being picked. I don't recommend it for use as a lockpicking practice lock but perfect for visual demonstrations.
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby eppiotic » 1 Feb 2010 22:11

Thanks for all the feedback guys. :)
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby nostromo » 1 Feb 2010 23:29

You can make some fairly easy from the same type of KIK 'cylinders' that the manufacturers use. Remove the pins, springs, cam and plug and clamp the sheel in a vise, face and rear touching the vise plates. Make sure that the 'shoulder' on one side or the other is exposed out of the vise. Using a 1/8" or so wide dremel bit, cut / grind a 'window' into the shoulder, removing metal from both the lower round part that encases the plug and the rectangular part that holds the pinstacks until the middle part (2d pin to 2d to last pin) of the shear line is exposed.

Clean up and reassemble. I did up some with angle grinders and warded files which was a lot quicker, but too much metal was removed all along the length of the case, which weakened it overall.

As good as the manufacturers using metal lathes? No way. But not nearly as expensive either.

Try and get scrap cylinders from a local locksmith if you can. Offering the scrap brass price ($1.50 a pound in my area at the moment) is only fair. Beats the heck out of paying $20 for a KIK to pull the cylinder out of.
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby SnowyBoy » 2 Feb 2010 7:59

PM me if you want high security cutaways. Will have some MT5+ made in a few weeks.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
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Re: Where do you find cutaway locks?

Postby SnowyBoy » 2 Feb 2010 8:09

loki-aka wrote:
A finely made cutaway, especially of something like a MTL Interactive is, truly, a beauty.


Speaking of which I've just finished a new cut I wanted to try :)

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6117/cimg6578.jpg
http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/941/cimg6580q.jpg
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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