bypas sof bullets locks and padlocks

[Rickthepick]

For those that know the method of bypassing the bullet shutter locks and padlocks of similar mechanism...

im looking for a material/tool to cope with greater forces as i have encountered a lock with a much stronger spring, that can be bypassed but needs something slim enough for the keyway but strong enough for the job.

I hope iv worded that question correctly as not to break rules.

[Squelchtone]

Hi,

I've never heard of a bullet lock, so I had to google this and I'm still at a loss as to how they work. http://www.locksonline.co.uk/acatalog/Bullet_and_Roller_Shutter_Locks__1_.html

Do you have a pic of any in use or how they are installed? We don't have anything like this in the USA, unless I've just never encoutered one before. They cylinder looks somewhat like the pop out locks on some office file cabinets, but the tube in the back is new to me.

Thanks
Squelchtone

[UtahRootBeer]

I belive they are a removable lock for the roll down security gates like for a store front, just my guess.

[Rickthepick]

manual roller shutters have a bullet housing welded to the frame.


you push the bullet lock in, the plunger pops and locks it in the housing.

The hardened steel bit on the back goes through into the shutter to stop it being lifted open



think you can probably work out the bypass method by the design of the lock

[Rickthepick]

i can sell a few if anyone wants one to play with got loads of them

[zeke79]

Does pushing the lock inward relieve any pressure making it easier to do what you are trying to accomplish?

[Rickthepick]

not really no

[KokomoLock]

Have you tried the Peterson bypass tools. I can't tell from the website though if they are made out of their spring steel or their government steel.

[sugurfoot]

Which steel is better? Spring or Government?

[loki-aka]

re. last post

The manufacturer, Peterson, seems to tout their "government steel" as superior to many steels.

I have not personally done sufficient testing on the steels to determine for myself.

However, the general consensus among hobbiest and lokies here, is Peterson products, regardless of the
particular alloy made from, are quite good quality.

[Josh K]

re. last post

The manufacturer, Peterson, seems to tout their "government steel" as superior to many steels.

I have not personally done sufficient testing on the steels to determine for myself.

However, the general consensus among hobbiest and lokies here, is Peterson products, regardless of the
particular alloy made from, are quite good quality.

I actually talked with Ken recently (for another thread) and as best I can tell it's [url="http://www.steelforge.com/forgings/alloys/incoloy713Creport.php"]Inconel 713C[/url] that they use for the "Government Steel." It's some pretty great stuff and I can see how it'd be a pain in the ass to work with.

The two picks I have in it (reach and half diamond) work great, so far no problems and it feels much better then my Southord set.

[Josh K]

Incoloy 713C <- correct link.

Remind me again why we don't have an edit button??

[zeke79]

Incoloy.... No wonder they are so expensive. We use it for certain corrosive materials in refining and it is not cheap. I done a small job in 8" pipe and was around 40' in length sch40 and the steel alone was between $350,000 and $500,000 without labor. Top that, it had a 6 month lead time. Whether or not it was the same type of inconel who knows, but it's all very very expensive.

[Josh K]

Incoloy.... No wonder they are so expensive. We use it for certain corrosive materials in refining and it is not cheap. I done a small job in 8" pipe and was around 40' in length sch40 and the steel alone was between $350,000 and $500,000 without labor. Top that, it had a 6 month lead time. Whether or not it was the same type of inconel who knows, but it's all very very expensive.

Considering you can get the "slim" picks for about $8 each and the standard thickness ones are $15, it's not a bad buy. I really love mine.

Plus that was the only 713 moly steel I could find, so I assume it's one and the same.