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What type of lock box/device is this?

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What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby ChrisOz » 13 Apr 2010 22:30

Hi guys, I'm new to the forum. My boss has this lock box of sorts but he forgets where he purchased it etc and I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction as to the name of the device, what it is generally used for, and where I might look to buy one (I live in Sydney Australia by the way).

I have uploaded two pictures of the lock box from my phone so please excuse the poor quality of the images!

I'm just after the name of the object, a rough estimate of cost and where to look to find a similar item. Thanks, Chris :-)

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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Apr 2010 22:41

I guess they don't have Google in Australia.

http://www.lasoo.com.au/offer/safes-secure-storage/concord-deluxe-cash-box/4fqib93zu.html


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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby nostromo » 13 Apr 2010 22:43

Looks like a simple cashbox or the like. Are there dividers for bills or coins? You might find some at an office supply store.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby ChrisOz » 13 Apr 2010 23:25

Well, I was searching for "Concord Deluxe Lock Box". Not "Cash Box". Hence why nothing came up. I also searched "SRM", presumably the firm that manufactures it. Again, no luck.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby ChrisOz » 13 Apr 2010 23:27

@ nostromo:

No there aren't mate. Just one section with felt covering the base.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby NanoDuke » 14 Apr 2010 6:40

Nostromo is right, you can get them from Office Works. Not that exact box, but similar, and with a coin tray

http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/pr ... s/JACASHME - 8"
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/pr ... s/JACASHSM - 6"
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http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/pr ... s/JACASHLG - 10"


BigW may have some. Also try Bunnings or Mitre10.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby globallockytoo » 14 Apr 2010 15:03

Most locksmiths in Oz stock ranges of lockboxes at competitive prices to Officeworks.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby nostromo » 14 Apr 2010 19:48

Ya know, if you're going to get another you might want to consider what it is you are locking up. That model (very nice picture, btw) looks like you could pull it open like a clam. A firesafe might be a bit harder to force open, tho it'll cost more.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby yng_pick » 14 Apr 2010 20:04

I agree with Nostromo-

Putting valuables in a box like so is presenting them to a potential bad guy in a obvious and highly portable, easily defeated package. They might even appreciate having them already collected for removal :p

I would recommend ideally something that could be bolted, but lacking that, at least something that is not so easy to break into. Of course I have no idea what you are storing (and don't want to know :p), but if it is important documentation you may want to consider a fire box like Nos. recommended, or perhaps a safety deposit box at a bank, though I have no idea what they rent for now-a-days.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby Josh K » 14 Apr 2010 21:39

yng_pick wrote:I agree with Nostromo-

Putting valuables in a box like so is presenting them to a potential bad guy in a obvious and highly portable, easily defeated package. They might even appreciate having them already collected for removal :p

I would recommend ideally something that could be bolted, but lacking that, at least something that is not so easy to break into. Of course I have no idea what you are storing (and don't want to know :p), but if it is important documentation you may want to consider a fire box like Nos. recommended, or perhaps a safety deposit box at a bank, though I have no idea what they rent for now-a-days.


Safety deposit boxes are cheap, but it's getting one that's hard. All of my local banks have already rented out their SD boxes.

+1 on the presentation. Bolt something to the floor. Barring that cable / chain it to an inanimate object. It's way to easy to smash and grab stuff.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby thelockpickkid » 14 Apr 2010 23:49

My two cents.. I would recommend a Sentry fire-proof safe, there not that expensive and even some of the smaller models are equipped to be able to bolt to a floor. There ok on security, as there are methods to gain access into these very very easy, most people don't have the knowledge to break into them. At least they offer very good fire protection and somebody can't just walk off with it.
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby unlisted » 15 Apr 2010 0:02

Best question, what do you want to do with a lockbox? What do you want to safeguard items from? Simple fire, burglary or both?

If fire, sentry is the way to go. Don't expect a standard one to hold up to half an hour of someone trying to get into it- they most likely will with very limited knowledge with safes.

If your worried about burglary, go for a thick plate steel (type) strongbox or deposit box, with a GOOD lock, and shrouded/hidden hinges. Make sure the "door" has additional latching bolts or plates along the hinge side, for when the door is shut. (static bolt) Also make sure you bolt it down very well, ideally into cement or solid structure. If you don't ever have to worry about moving it, ideally build a form, and cement it into the floor. Make sure to use rebar to strengthen the cement. Best to mount it in a closet, or cold room in the bsmt- somewhere it would be difficult to "normally" see, and limited room around it, to make it even harder to "rip out"

If your worried about both, there really is no "cheap" option... unless you build a closet into a strong room, and have a fire safe contained within. (cheapest way in the parts where I reside)
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Re: What type of lock box/device is this?

Postby globallockytoo » 15 Apr 2010 1:56

You see many lockboxes in offices that maintain a float. Often many employees may use one desk and the manager needs to keep some things locked away but easily accessible. Lockboxes are reasonably private containers that can be put in a drawer.

Most are bump proof disc tumbler locks, but most people dont know how to pick anyhow.

Cheap, useful, convenient, accessible, moderately secure....sounds like a product tailored to it's market.
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