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by themarmot » 17 Jul 2010 22:48
Today my car got booted although it was legally parked in my parking lot. Someone at my work thought it would be a fun joke to take my parking pass off my window, and no my car was not locked since the locks don't work on the 2 rear door anyways. Anyhow, I've contacted the building owner who can opt to pay the fee, he won't, and the boot company who tells me I have till Monday afternoon to pay the fee or have my car towed, money I don't have. Luckily though, my boss agreed to pay the boot fee if I can remove the lock before it's towed. Otherwise I gotta pay the towing fee. Here are some pics of the lock and hopefully someone can guide me along.
[enormous images removed. --Legion303]
I'm catching a ride home for the evening but will check in here throughout tonight and tomorrow to see if anyone can help me.
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by MacGyver101 » 17 Jul 2010 23:40
You're not going to get any help here.
We pick locks as a hobby, because we enjoy the puzzle... not because we're trying to get our way out of paying parking fines.
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by Legion303 » 18 Jul 2010 0:20
Your boss is advising you to do something illegal, and instead of immediately brushing up your resume and getting far away from his impending train wreck of a business, you thought it was a good idea. I don't know which of you is more stupid.
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by themarmot » 18 Jul 2010 0:32
@mcgyver I'm def. not new to this, I'll be at defcon, but not as a lockpicker so while I respect your hobby, I think you misunderstand that this is more of a bet. I know either way the boot is getting removed and btw, it's not illegal because the car is parked in a private parking lot. There are no laws that cover boots on cars and since either way the company is getting their money and their boot back undamaged there is no crime. I've also been a lurker around here and on another site for some time, but have never had the time to sit down and learn.
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by themarmot » 18 Jul 2010 0:36
Legion303 wrote:Your boss is advising you to do something illegal, and instead of immediately brushing up your resume and getting far away from his impending train wreck of a business, you thought it was a good idea. I don't know which of you is more stupid.
-steve
Our business is pretty successful and as a programmer/systems admin i've got probably one of the best jobs in my industry in a pretty decent location(ski town, co), with pretty decent hours(40 hrs. between hikes/bike rides/skiing) with pretty decent pay(not disclosing). So don't think our 'trainwreck' of a business will be seeing my resignation letter anytime soon. How does this at all relate to my post?
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by Legion303 » 18 Jul 2010 1:34
themarmot wrote:Legion303 wrote:Your boss is advising you to do something illegal, and instead of immediately brushing up your resume and getting far away from his impending train wreck of a business, you thought it was a good idea. I don't know which of you is more stupid.
-steve
Our business is pretty successful and as a programmer/systems admin i've got probably one of the best jobs in my industry in a pretty decent location(ski town, co), with pretty decent hours(40 hrs. between hikes/bike rides/skiing) with pretty decent pay(not disclosing).
Your pay is so decent you can't afford to pay the fee and then fight it in court, I guess. So don't think our 'trainwreck' of a business will be seeing my resignation letter anytime soon. How does this at all relate to my post?
Try reading what I wrote again. And yes, removing the boot is illegal. you don't own it, it was properly (by your own admission) applied via the contract with the property owner, and your removal of the device will undoubtedly screw up the lock. -steve
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by themarmot » 18 Jul 2010 3:35
Legion303 wrote:themarmot wrote:Legion303 wrote:Your boss is advising you to do something illegal, and instead of immediately brushing up your resume and getting far away from his impending train wreck of a business, you thought it was a good idea. I don't know which of you is more stupid.
-steve
Our business is pretty successful and as a programmer/systems admin i've got probably one of the best jobs in my industry in a pretty decent location(ski town, co), with pretty decent hours(40 hrs. between hikes/bike rides/skiing) with pretty decent pay(not disclosing).
Your pay is so decent you can't afford to pay the fee and then fight it in court, I guess. So don't think our 'trainwreck' of a business will be seeing my resignation letter anytime soon. How does this at all relate to my post?
Try reading what I wrote again. And yes, removing the boot is illegal. you don't own it, it was properly (by your own admission) applied via the contract with the property owner, and your removal of the device will undoubtedly screw up the lock. -steve
Checked in CO it's not illegal if it's on private property as long as there is no damage done to the boot, damaging it can only result in a civil case and possible property damage charges, but according to the police department here it's generally more time than it's worth to the boot company. However, that's a moot point if the boot can be removed by letting the air out of the tire and slipping it through(trying this first), which according to my google-fu is relatively easy to do. There are other methods and I even toyed with the idea of using thermite, but that's silly since it would definitely ruin the boot and probably anything in close proximity on my car. It's not so much about the money, but more the fact that I shouldn't need to pay a fee from an overzealous boot company in a parking lot that my companies already leases and both the owner and the front desk person who authorized the boot know me very well(the front desk guy called an apologized saying he didn't think it was my car). I understand paying traffic tix if it's in a public area and I was doing something obviously wrong, but this isn't the case here so I don't intend on paying to have the boot removed.
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by Legion303 » 18 Jul 2010 3:47
Well good luck with that.  -steve
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