What Medeco Keyway is this?

[MacGnG1]

I bought this from bumber a few months back. I took it apart last night and now I finally understand how Medecos work! I'd like to get a key made but none of the lockies around here have a key blank (I didn't think they would, but i had to ask em anyway). So I was wondering if anyone knew what keyway this was or had any more info:



THANKS!!

[Legion303]

Could be a Biaxial, but your picture is too blurry for me to tell.

EDIT: thumb was blurry, but the picture itself was OK. I don't see the extra ward on the bottom left that would make it look like my Biaxial key.

-steve

[Solomon]

It's definately not a biaxial... the biaxial logo isn't on it and the keyway is different. The profile looks very similar to the MD8R (XH985) which is no longer restricted, if that's what it is then you should be able to get a key made without the card... just a matter of finding someone with the right blanks! Good luck

[MacGnG1]

whatcha think??? click the thumbnail for a large pic:



http://www.davenport-burgess.com has it in their key blank catalog. no price tho.

[weilawei]

Doesn't look quite right to me, but I could be full of it.

[weilawei]

I realized that the one of them might've been flipped horizontally (though I doubt it, as you can read Medeco correctly), so I made another quick picture.

It's a little closer when flipped horizontally, though the black keyway (traced by quickly polygonal lasso'ing the original photo's keyway) shows some differences. And, it might not even be that great of a depiction (I could've messed up--some of those edges look rounded, not sharp as I have them).

[yono]

hi, thats a 38 keyway Medeco. Its an exclusive keyway. (as i know) regards

[MacGnG1]

hi, thats a 38 keyway Medeco. Its an exclusive keyway. (as i know) regards

anyone know where i could get one, or two blanks????
THANKS

[yono]

my apology mr. MacGnG1, a 38kwy it seems however when I took picture and compare its just near but not the right one. here are some of the restricted keyways which i know of.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn11 ... eMekwy.jpg

regards

[Squelchtone]

hi, thats a 38 keyway Medeco. Its an exclusive keyway. (as i know) regards

anyone know where i could get one, or two blanks????
THANKS

I dont think you understand.. not only are you not going to be able to get blanks, neither is any locksmith. They are restricted keyways made exclusively for large systems such as a college campus or a large corporation where they actually bought their own keyway that isn't used anywhere else in the world.

That's the tricky part about buying Medeco on ebay or from others in the locksport community. It will be priced well, but if you don't get keys with it and it isn't the Original AIR, SKY, G3, Freedom, Patriot, or Liberty keyway, good luck getting keys. Likewise, if your ebay lock has a key or two, then that's all you will ever have is just a key or two. Which I suppose is better than no keys.

Squelchtone

[weilawei]

I suppose one could get an appropriately sized blank (larger than the restricted keyway), take a photo, make some measurements and file one down. But that's a bit of work.

[Squelchtone]

I suppose one could get an appropriately sized blank (larger than the restricted keyway), take a photo, make some measurements and file one down. But that's a bit of work.

Well, there is the Mosler 1095A safe deposit key blank that is known to slide right into most Medeco keyways, sometimes you have to channel out a little room for the warding, but he could make key for it if he's really gung ho about getting a key for that KIK. or just go buy a KIK with a key.

That's the other thing, aside from old 1970 non-biaxial blanks, most Biaxial blanks are not available anywhere, and the ones that are, I already listed and he doesn't have those keyways. The one he has actually looks like the ones I have in my collection, so I may have a key for him to use, but it wont be a blank, it will be a factory cut key that he would have to pin his lock up to. Heck, I'll even send him the pins to match my key, because I'm repinning it for something else, and my keyway looks like 90% of his keyway, so like you said, some considerable work with a Dremel and you'd be good, I don't think a hand file would work well at this scale.

MacGnG1 is your KIK a 5 pin or 6 pin? Thanks.

Squelchtone

[MacGnG1]

MacGnG1 is your KIK a 5 pin or 6 pin? Thanks.
Squelchtone

pretty sure it's 6

[MacGnG1]

so its not the exact keyway but with a big thanks to squelchtone and just a little grinding, i have a working lock. the keys he provided were kinda square and my keyway was smaller and slightly angled, so i just took the dremel to the key and it works!



repinned it and its good to go!