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Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby backontrack » 3 Dec 2010 22:35

So there is no ideal pick? Is just like me saying to a custumer who needs to cut a piece of rebar or what not ,to stay away cus "well people around will think that u maybe on the works of an under ground tunnel" So I can not direct you in the rigth path. Sorry but all I wanted to know, what pick is the best, there is 14pcs(picks) and all to me seem to be different for apps. I've been a G.C. for 18yrs. So trust me, I can care less what people thinks of me when I rebuilted so many odd improvements. The locksmth that I use on lockouts ,seems to be un-sure of disclosing any info to me, I guess is cause he knows what we can do.
So next time I have a ?. Please if you can not answer, due to "some one can use in a illegal matter" Just say no. Stay away of all politics.
Thank you all!
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Postby lockinabox » 3 Dec 2010 22:58

Pleaz you stop I undrstand me bilder of 800 yars experiance. No answeer for yu!! Thar is no idealz picks!! I am very politicanal!
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Re: re..

Postby thelockpickkid » 3 Dec 2010 23:20

Hmm, I am lost is a G.C. a a general contractor or a Gynocologist???
Shoot first ask questions later! Thelockpickkid
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Re: re..

Postby Jaakko » 3 Dec 2010 23:30

I just accidentally my pants, is this bad?
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Re: re..

Postby Solomon » 4 Dec 2010 3:36

Are you seriously throwing a hissy fit because you didn't get the answer you were expecting? You asked what the ideal pick for a dexter lock was, it doesn't work like that.

There is no "ideal pick" for any particular lock. You start off with a short or medium hook, and if the lock isn't playing ball, you should be able to tell what the problem is and choose a pick you feel will do the job easier. You're not experienced enough to be able to figure that out yet, nothing wrong with that... and of course we're here to help, but it seems to me that you're concentrating on the wrong stuff. It's not a case of finding the right pick, you can pick almost anything with a basic short hook.

So far you've picked a cheap chinese padlock and a cabinet lock, which I'll assume was a wafer type. Those are both cheap and nasty locks, which can be opened with very basic understanding and it doesn't take much skill... I'll put it this way, if you went with random picks and wiggled them around until you found one that worked, it wouldn't have taken long to crack those. But now you're at the door lock, changing picks every 30 seconds or so, and can't seem to find the "right pick" for it.

Don't take offense and throw another wobbly, that's exactly what I did when I first started... do yourself a favour, take the time to learn the theory properly and pay attention to the pins.

If you don't fully understand how the mechanism works along with tolerances and binding order, do your homework before attempting to pick anything half decent. And don't say you know all this already cos if you did, you wouldn't be asking what the best pick for your exact lock was. ;)
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Postby EmCee » 4 Dec 2010 4:35

backontrack wrote:The locksmth that I use on lockouts ,seems to be un-sure of disclosing any info to me...
And from your other thread:
backontrack wrote:I'm a General contractor, about four to six times a year I get asked to open locks and or re-key,so I've allways sub that work just to give the service to my clients, without making a dime, since our industry it's been slow I tougth about upgrading my licence by adding a credencial.
Do you see the link there? If your industry is slowing down there's no problem at all in you looking to add other skills that will allow you to earn or save money. But just remember that the locksmith is in exactly the same position as you - things are slowing down, more and more people are getting into locksmithing so competition is increasing while demand is going down. Can you understand why your locksmith would be 'unsure' about telling you how to do the job for which you are currently paying him?

Cheers...
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Postby illusion » 4 Dec 2010 7:56

Pin cylinder locks:
Use the snake and saw shaped picks to rake, or rock the pins.
Use the hook shaped picks to lift the pins individually. You can also use this pick to rake well but tension is very important.
Use the half diamond and hook-diamond/ball hybrid picks to lift the pins individually or to rake them.

Wafer locks:
Use the round, ball shaped picks for picking wafer locks, although hook picks also work. Be careful with higher end wafer locks, especially any attached to wheels.

General Usage:
Use the barbed pick to get broken picks or keys out of the lock.

Please stop showing your flange every time someone replies to your semi literate posts in a way that seems to make you become rather precious. :)
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Re: re..

Postby backontrack » 5 Dec 2010 13:49

Definately very uninformed :x Like all trades time, effort and common sense are the key. I guess i got over exited by those cheap ass pick i did on a very inexpensive locks, however that same day I was able to open two of my gun locks, one a master 107 the other 10000ptr-4,
and yesterday I got the americanlock into false set,it was getting late so I will tackle today.Had to modified the small hook from my set to a slimer and shorther version to move around keyway.
Thank you guys. Back to that A.L. 8)
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