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7300 series American Lock

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7300 series American Lock

Postby jas » 16 Jan 2011 21:34

Is the 7300 padlock w/tubular cylinder a good choice for general lockup? I need a secure padlock that won't bankrupt me. I intend to lockup a couple of mowers and have a couple lengths of 1/2" GR80 chain. Any advice is welcomed.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby edsmiley » 16 Jan 2011 21:53

Do you mean from picking?

That is a tough question because there could be many other ways outside of the lock to get to your items. Just think about putting the top of the line lock on your front door. It might be great against the pick, but if someone can kick in your door or bust a window, the lock will do nothing from keeping someone out.

To get to your question. I think that is a fine lock, not a cheapie and not super expensive, for general lockup. Just keep in mind the surroundings of your lock when considering total security.

Good luck!
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby jas » 16 Jan 2011 22:17

Yes, picking and bolt cutter resistant. I feel pretty good about the alloy 1/2" chain.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby thelockpickkid » 16 Jan 2011 23:27

These are not bolt cutter resistant and not pick proof, however they are a good lock. Way better than your ordinary Masterlock.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby jas » 17 Jan 2011 6:57

thelockpickkid wrote:These are not bolt cutter resistant and not pick proof, however they are a good lock. Way better than your ordinary Masterlock.

How much shackle dia. do I need to resist bolt cutters? Or is it the quality of the material? Maybe I should consider the Abus Rock, or Granite 37.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby raimundo » 17 Jan 2011 9:25

Whos coming to get your mowers, they should be safe from thieves at least until spring. remember some things don't interest thieves, a crowbar they can use, but a shovel they will not pick up. its only good for working.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby jas » 17 Jan 2011 11:18

raimundo wrote:Whos coming to get your mowers, they should be safe from thieves at least until spring. remember some things don't interest thieves, a crowbar they can use, but a shovel they will not pick up. its only good for working.

We're having a rash of thefts in the area, 4-wheelers and Z-machines. I'd like to keep mine.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby jas » 17 Jan 2011 12:41

jas wrote:
thelockpickkid wrote:These are not bolt cutter resistant and not pick proof, however they are a good lock. Way better than your ordinary Masterlock.

How much shackle dia. do I need to resist bolt cutters? Or is it the quality of the material? Maybe I should consider the Abus Rock, or Granite 37.

??
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby criminalhate » 17 Jan 2011 14:41

The bigger the better but you will still be able to cut it off unless it's shrouded to protect the bolt. Material also comes into play with the shackle. The chain will probably be easier to cut then a decent padlock.


A lock only keeps an honest man honest. A crook is going to steal it if they want to no matter the type of lock you buy. Buy a decent lock but stop worrying about someone picking your lock open because 99.9% of thieves are not going to waste their time picking a lock.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 17 Jan 2011 16:56

7300 series shackle is nearly a half inch thick. They're going to need a large set of bolt cutters to do the job. It's not as cut and dry, pardon the pun, as people make it out to be. Not impossible but definitely not easy.

IIRC, the 7300 uses a double locking mechanism to secure the shackle meaning they're going to have to cut the bolt twice.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby criminalhate » 18 Jan 2011 10:15

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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby raimundo » 18 Jan 2011 11:32

a few minute with the cutoff saw. it gets very hot so don't touch it whiles its still smokin'

I remember two big guys trying to cut one of those shackles at a storage locker place, the were both holding on the handles of this large bolt cutter and using all their weight, climbing the wall holding that pincher handle. the succeeded in making several visible dents, maybe a millimeter deep but no further, the stuff gets tougher before it breaks,
I like those boron steel shackles.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby WolfSpring » 18 Jan 2011 12:16

It is true a lock only keeps honest men honest, and it is also true you are only as strong as your weakest link, you are talking lock and chain thicknesses, where exactly are you going to lock your mowers at, to, through? I've seen mowers that were chained to a fence pole and the owner came back to a hantle still chained to a fence pole but no mower at all, just the handle of it. The biggest baddest lock in the world will not stop anyone who wants what you have. 100 dollar lock bypassed by dremelling the shackle it is on or prying the hinges off the door. Don't waist to much on a lock if the other measures around it are not equally beefed up.
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby criminalhate » 18 Jan 2011 12:48

WolfSpring wrote:It is true a lock only keeps honest men honest, and it is also true you are only as strong as your weakest link, you are talking lock and chain thicknesses, where exactly are you going to lock your mowers at, to, through? I've seen mowers that were chained to a fence pole and the owner came back to a hantle still chained to a fence pole but no mower at all, just the handle of it. The biggest baddest lock in the world will not stop anyone who wants what you have. 100 dollar lock bypassed by dremelling the shackle it is on or prying the hinges off the door. Don't waist to much on a lock if the other measures around it are not equally beefed up.



exactly
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Re: 7300 series American Lock

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 18 Jan 2011 18:00

criminalhate wrote:One size fits all

http://www.makita.com/en-us/Modules/Too ... x?ID=10949


A Dremel works fine too.
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