Which door lock is the most secure?

[Tassie Devil]

New here so forgive ignorance in posting but this seems the most appropriate forum to get answers.

Seems absolutely no lock is immune to a clever lock pick and obviously many are great graduates here. So I pose the question to you, which brands/models of household door locks available in Australia offer the most resistance to bump keys - as replacements to the standard dead lock?

TIA

John

[Squelchtone]

New here so forgive ignorance in posting but this seems the most appropriate forum to get answers.

Seems absolutely no lock is immune to a clever lock pick and obviously many are great graduates here. So I pose the question to you, which brands/models of household door locks available in Australia offer the most resistance to bump keys - as replacements to the standard dead lock?

TIA

John

BiLock

and no one here calls themselves a 'lock pick' Unless that term is hot in Australia, but most of us use "lock picker".

[moving this thread to more appropriate sub forum, this one is for Locksmiths who have business questions about running a Locksmith business.]
Squelchtone

[Jeremym0411]

In my experience the most secure consumer lock is the kwikset smart key lock or the schlage secure key lock. The kwikset lock cannot be bumped open. And is some what hard to pick. But on the down side the kwikset lock has an non destructive bypass that opens the lock in seconds. I hope this answers your question. I am going to try and post a video on how to take the kwikset lock apart and reset it by hand eliminating the need for the reset cradel.

[Squelchtone]

In my experience the most secure consumer lock is the kwikset smart key lock or the schlage secure key lock. The kwikset lock cannot be bumped open. And is some what hard to pick. But on the down side the kwikset lock has an non destructive bypass that opens the lock in seconds. I hope this answers your question. I am going to try and post a video on how to take the kwikset lock apart and reset it by hand eliminating the need for the reset cradel.

The poster is in Australia, their market may not even sell these two locks, and unlike the USA, other countries actually sell good locks to consumers, but we get stuck with whatever Lowe's and Home Depot sells which is usually Kwikset and Schlage. I also wouldn't say these are the most secure consumer locks, but they are the most secure bottom of the barrel < $30 US locks. As a consumer, you are free to visit a real brick and mortal locksmith shop and spend $200 on a Medeco or even a nice Schlage Primus, they are not only limited to commercial use.

Squelchtone

[Legion303]

which brands/models of household door locks available in Australia offer the most resistance to bump keys - as replacements to the standard dead lock?

Do you have windows?

-steve

[Northwest1]

You gotta love the CHubb 3g110....great lock !

[antz_539]

New here so forgive ignorance in posting but this seems the most appropriate forum to get answers.

Seems absolutely no lock is immune to a clever lock pick and obviously many are great graduates here. So I pose the question to you, which brands/models of household door locks available in Australia offer the most resistance to bump keys - as replacements to the standard dead lock?

TIA

John

Hi John,

Resistance to bump keys is related more so to the cylinder of the lock more so than the lock itself.

In my opinion, locking systems such as BiLock as squelchtone mentioned and Abloy Protec are the pinnacle of whats available in our market.

If price was a concern, I'd choose BiLock. Also BiLock is made in Australia, so they make cylinders for the locks that are available in the Australian market. Abloy Protec costs about 30% more than BiLock and is a Finnish made cylinder that is harder to retrofit to some Aussie locks.

In answer, to replace a standard deadlock, with your goal being to have a bump resistant lock I would personally buy a Lockwood Paradigm and have BiLock cylinders installed to this lock. This assumes that the holes in your door are a 54mm main core hole and a 25mm hole for the bolt.

The Lockwood paradigm is a very solid unit, with a safety release feature and a nice stainless bolt.

Good luck

Anthony

[johnw]

Keeping in mind that bilocks brass sidebars can still be potentially be forced to snap and then any gutted bilock nextg key can be inserted and the centre tounge manipulated in a very short period of time. I would personally prefer the new generation of protechs until a bilock with steel sidebars is released

All that being said, I still use bilocks to lock up all of my equipment storage containers.

[raimundo]

high security locks may resist picking but seldom resist determined kicking by a big man.
when talking about 'most secure' you need to also consider the boltworks,
a fox police lock and there are several types, might still be available, one type has metal bars that secure the hinge as well as lock side of the door,
and the probably best kind had a metal rod that entered a fitting on the floor and angled into the door just behind the lock. both of these would be more secure against kicking,

I have no way of knowning if anything like this is available in Aus. or even if they are still on the market here in the US.

But if you look the type up on the internet it will give you and idea of what secure looks like.

I should say what high security looks like and note that high security contains the term 'high' which introduces the relativity of security,

In reality there is no perfect security, there is always some kind of bigger hammer, so you can talk about different levels of security but keep these things in mind, security is relative, if everyone in your neighborhood is honest, thats real security, but in reality, that is never true.

If you lose your keys outside the house, your gonna be locked out, this is more of a problem when factors like late at night in the rain or freezing temperature make it more urgent to get inside,

If you are locked in and a fire or domestic violence or some other internal threat condition occurs, you need to open the lock quickly with a key that you always know where its kept, if you have a thumb turn on the inside of the door this is easily accomplished but an axe or hole saw will make this thumb turn available to those on the outside.

You are really looking for the best security available for your budget and your neighborhood.
for a lock cylinder in australia, get the bilock. as has been suggested