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What type of Schlage key

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What type of Schlage key

Postby neilt » 7 Jun 2012 5:02

Hi

I'm in need of some expert advice.

I have just purchased a new house and am looking at getting some of the Disney house key blanks cut for my kids, but I need to work out if I have a SC1 style lock. I have had a look on the key but I cant see the letter C stamped on it but there is the numbers 77777 on one key and 33333 printed on the other key.

Is there anyway to tell what type of key I have from those numbers or could I post a picture of the keys to help identify them.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Neil

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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby minifhncc » 7 Jun 2012 5:11

Uhhhh... Those are probably the exact bittings for your keys and one could make a key from those numbers... I'd advise it to be removed asap...
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby neilt » 7 Jun 2012 5:22

opps sorry, Thanks to the person who changed them
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby keysman » 7 Jun 2012 5:25

It is unlikely that you have Schlage keys ..the numbers quoted ( before the edit) contain cuts not normally found in “ retail” key cuts for Schlage. You may want to try Kwickset .. the person cutting your keys should be able to match up the correct blank.
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby neilt » 7 Jun 2012 5:46

keysman wrote:It is unlikely that you have Schlage keys ..the numbers quoted ( before the edit) contain cuts not normally found in “ retail” key cuts for Schlage. You may want to try Kwickset .. the person cutting your keys should be able to match up the correct blank.


Thanks for that, I will go and have a chat to my local locksmith next time im in town. Also I should of added the keys do say Schlage on the other side of the key.

Cheers
Neil
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby keysman » 7 Jun 2012 6:04

Post a picture of the " head" of the key if you can.. you may have key/ locks that were rekeyed.
Most factory stampings are on the same side as the " Schlage" stamping.


PS post your pic to a hosting service like : http://tinypic.com/ and post the links here
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby cledry » 7 Jun 2012 6:33

neilt wrote:Hi

I'm in need of some expert advice.

I have just purchased a new house and am looking at getting some of the Disney house key blanks cut for my kids, but I need to work out if I have a SC1 style lock. I have had a look on the key but I cant see the letter C stamped on it but there is the numbers 77777 on one key and 33333 printed on the other key.

Is there anyway to tell what type of key I have from those numbers or could I post a picture of the keys to help identify them.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Neil

keycodes edited by keysman...


Many locksmiths carry those Disney keys, I know we do. It is the job of the locksmith to identify the keyway for you.

Another alternative is stick any Schlage C in the lock, be it a blank or a cut key. If it goes in then you can use the SC1 Disney blank.
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby neilt » 7 Jun 2012 6:59

keysman wrote:Post a picture of the " head" of the key if you can.. you may have key/ locks that were rekeyed.
Most factory stampings are on the same side as the " Schlage" stamping.


PS post your pic to a hosting service like : http://tinypic.com/ and post the links here


Cool thanks

I have taken a photo of the key but photographer Im not. I hope its good enough to get the details from.

Image

Cheers
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby camelgd » 8 Jun 2012 19:19

As far as "non-standard" bittings on Schlage, I have seen some Schlage marked keys coming from China with 1's and 2's in the key bittings.They came with sidebar "+" locks from lowe's and/or Home Depot. I refuse to use the word security in describing them!
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby sandplum » 8 Jun 2012 23:48

neilt wrote:
Cool thanks

I have taken a photo of the key but photographer Im not. I hope its good enough to get the details from.

Cheers
Neil


Clearly, its a Schlage key. If I could see the profile of the blade, I could tell you the keyway, but it is better that you not put photos of your working keys on the internet.

Generally speaking, if a Schlage key does not have a letter (like C or E) or tiny numbers (123) in the corner, then it is SC1. That's the standard default and doesn't need to be marked. There are exceptions... but I think in this case it is safe to assume you have SC1. Which character will you be getting? :)
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby neilt » 9 Jun 2012 7:04

Thanks for all your help guys its much appreciated. It looks like they are SC1.

Daughter number 1 would like Winnie the Pooh, Daughter number 2 would like Nemo and they Boy wants Mater from Cars. The things we do for our kids.

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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby cledry » 9 Jun 2012 7:06

That should be a SC1. There is enough of the milling that I am confident of this. Although not easy to photograph, a view looking directly at the tip is the easy way to be sure.

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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby raimundo » 10 Jun 2012 8:25

@ Sandplum

when you get older you will learn that the keyway warding slots are cut by tiny wheels that leave a memory of their diameter at the end of the cut where the wheel stops and the cut ends
with interesting elongated shadows of the mill wheel cut.

You can identify an exact match in keyblanks by looking here at the bow end of the key where the wheels leave that 'elongated shadow' of the mill wheel.

This form of looking at a keyway is actually more revealling and accurate than looking at it end on as one of the schlage C photos tries to do. the subtlties of a cut are apparent in these
elongations in a way that is easier to see.
take two keys that are nearly alike and look at the bow end of the warding cuts to see the subtlties that are more apparent in this view.
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Re: What type of Schlage key

Postby sandplum » 11 Jun 2012 0:43

raimundo wrote:@ Sandplum

when you get older you will learn that the keyway warding slots are cut by tiny wheels that leave a memory of their diameter at the end of the cut where the wheel stops and the cut ends
with interesting elongated shadows of the mill wheel cut.

You can identify an exact match in keyblanks by looking here at the bow end of the key where the wheels leave that 'elongated shadow' of the mill wheel.

This form of looking at a keyway is actually more revealling and accurate than looking at it end on as one of the schlage C photos tries to do. the subtlties of a cut are apparent in these
elongations in a way that is easier to see.
take two keys that are nearly alike and look at the bow end of the warding cuts to see the subtlties that are more apparent in this view.


Only if you have a collection of key bows to compare your key to. I have only the key catalogs with the profile images. And I don't plan on getting any older ;)
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