Master Lock NO 17

[ruski]

Ive been trying to pick this lock for months with no success. I still new to the picking game. I got a couple of questions: that i need some help with, when I am picking the pins in the pad lock, i hear them click than they fall down again to there original postion is this good? Or are they supposed to jam on the shear line and stay all the way up? Than once I have most of the pins clear, there are like 2 pins that wont click, what gives?

[Grudge]

No offense, but it sounds like you don't have the fundamentals of picking down yet. I really recommend you read the MIT Guide To Lockpicking and/or all of the good stuff under LP 101's FAQ section.

To answer your question, you don't want the pins to get stuck up in the cylinder. That means you have pushed them too high.

When a pin is properly picked, it will fall back down BUT it won't be driven by the spring above it (because the driver pin and the spring above it are caught above the shear line). It is really important you learn the difference between a spring driven pin and a gravity driven one.

Try this: Without using a tension wrench, put your pick into the back of the lock, push each of the pins up as you withdraw it and listen to the sound they make when they snap back down. That is a spring driven drop. A properly set pin will make a different sound and have a different feel.

Hope that helps!

[evangelic]

sounds like you should certainly check the guide out one more time.

on every lock ive picked so far ( 4-5 easy locks) the key pins had to be out side the hull EXCEPT for the master 140 which for some bizarre reason had to be inside the hull, with the exception of key pin 1. so wierd.

[begginerlockpicker]

i at first had troulbe with no. 140 but i got the hang of it after a while..u have to use more tension than appears...it also has a spool pin which makes it diffrent