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Desk lock - Can't pick when it's upsidedown

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Desk lock - Can't pick when it's upsidedown

Postby Frosty555 » 21 Dec 2004 17:23

Hi everyone,

I have been practicing for a little while picking a lock on my desk drawer, which has been very successful :D. It's a standard 5-pin tumbler lock, reasonably poor quality that it's easy for me to pick it with my hand-made bicycle-spoke pick and hex-key tension wrench.

However, while I can pick it very quickly and very reliably one way, it is very difficult to go the other way. To make this clearer, when the pins are at the top of the lock, I can pick it and rotate the cylinder until the pins are facing down, the pins then reset and the desk is locked. However, when I try and pick the lock while the pins are at the bottom, no matter what I do the thing just won't open.

I think the reason for this is because when the pins are on the bottom, the spring tension that keeps the pins up is working against gravity, so perhaps pins are being overset because the friction with the barrel is too much for the spring tension on the pins to overcome. However it doesn't seem to matter how gently I apply tension, it still won't work.

If this is the case, does anyone have any tips for working with a lock where the cylinder is upside-down? Or, if I'm wrong, can anyone tell me WHY the locks are harder to pick when the cylinder is upside-down?
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Postby mcm757207 » 21 Dec 2004 17:41

Just FYI, your sig is in violation of the rules on this site.
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Postby WhiteHat » 21 Dec 2004 17:44

I think it sounds more like a wafer lock than a pin tumbler - I had a similar problem with my first ever lock that I picked (a filing cabinit)
I've found that it just takes patience and a lighter touch and some practice.
Oh look! it's 2016!
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Postby Frosty555 » 21 Dec 2004 19:24

I think I may need to look into the FAQs some more. :S IF I've been picking wafer locks all this time I'm going to be embarassed because I've been calling them pin tumblers.
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