Removing car clamp lock - possible with bump key ? UK lock.

[ytrete33]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238rg_hFlgM

What is the easiest way to remove this type of lock ? And where could I buy the tools for it ?

EDIT : Is that a dimple key lock ? And would any bump key work for it ? Or a wafer lock ?



Thanks.

[MacGyver101]

You don't even need a bump key; they're trivial to remove with just a credit card... just pay the parking fine.

[HerrMannelig]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=238rg_hFlgM

What is the easiest way to remove this type of lock ? And where could I buy the tools for it ?

EDIT : Is that a dimple key lock ? And would any bump key work for it ? Or a wafer lock ?

Thanks.

The easiest way is to use the key.

Ethically speaking, we only pick locks we own or have permission to pick. Where to get tools and how to learn are prominent on this site.

I saw this thread about this issue: viewtopic.php?t=5123

[ytrete33]

You can remove it under UK law.

[HerrMannelig]

You can remove it under UK law.

I am not a lawyer, attorney, or barrister. Whether it is legal or not is not necessarily the issue. Lock picking is a hobby, and most people who do it are very mindful of the ethical ramifications of using that knowledge, especially giving it to those who are unknown. While I personally think information should be free, I also think information is for those who are willing to seek it out.

It is easy to use a search engine and find this forum for a wide number of searches. But this is a community of people with a common interest.

[Squelchtone]

You can remove it under UK law.

Let's go to the Winchester, have a pint, and wait for some of our UK lockies to reply to this topic.

Thanks
Squelchtone

[Squelchtone]

Op, did the local govt place a clamp on your car for not paying car tax or did a private scammer place it for parking in a no parking area?

[ytrete33]

In Northern Ireland and Scotland you can, the laws are slightly different.

You can remove it under UK law.

I am not a lawyer, attorney, or barrister. Whether it is legal or not is not necessarily the issue. Lock picking is a hobby, and most people who do it are very mindful of the ethical ramifications of using that knowledge, especially giving it to those who are unknown. While I personally think information should be free, I also think information is for those who are willing to seek it out.

It is easy to use a search engine and find this forum for a wide number of searches. But this is a community of people with a common interest.

Okay, I understand. The truth is I don't even own a car. I was just generally curious. I would never actually go around removing them from cars, even though that is allowed.

[ytrete33]

Op, did the local govt place a clamp on your car for not paying car tax or did a private scammer place it for parking in a no parking area?

Neither. I was just generally curious. Would bump keys work on them though ?

[huxleypig]

The lock in the video is most definitely a pin tumbler.

I think the real question is why do you need to remove a wheel clamp? Is it from the DVLA? Because if it is then the legality of removing it is very doubtful, despite what that guy in the video says (being a government agency they make their own rules). If the clamp is from a private company then clamping a car on private land is now illegal in England and the police SHOULD come out and arrest the clampers. If this is the situation then there is certainly no problem in picking the lock and removing the clamp so long as you don't damage the clamp.

[ytrete33]

Okay thanks.

[ytrete33]

The lock in the video is most definitely a pin tumbler.

I think the real question is why do you need to remove a wheel clamp? Is it from the DVLA? Because if it is then the legality of removing it is very doubtful, despite what that guy in the video says (being a government agency they make their own rules). If the clamp is from a private company then clamping a car on private land is now illegal in England and the police SHOULD come out and arrest the clampers. If this is the situation then there is certainly no problem in picking the lock and removing the clamp so long as you don't damage the clamp.

No, I don't even own a car. I am just generally curious. Okay, so can a bump key work on a pin tumbler ?

[l0ckcr4ck3r]

AFAIK… As long long as you don't damage the clamp, you are not breaking any laws. However, there is an exception to this rule, if the Clamp has been placed there because of a Court order, it then becomes an offense to remove it!

So what constitutes "Damage" in the eyes of the Law? Would taking the lock apart and moving some key pins around, be damage? That way you could pick it off, then go fit it to the clamper's van when he's off getting lunch and have a good laugh when he finds out his key doesn't work anymore

[HerrMannelig]

So what constitutes "Damage" in the eyes of the Law? Would taking the lock apart and moving some key pins around, be damage? That way you could pick it off, then go fit it to the clamper's van when he's off getting lunch and have a good laugh when he finds out his key doesn't work anymore

In this case, the "law" is often decided by common law, which is developed by judges as time goes on.

For anything which doesn't have a precedent, a new one will be set when it confronts the court.

That means the "law" is created as issues arise.

I am not sure exploring what constitutes "damage" would be wise, given that the courts could go either way in almost any situation.

I think, based on a quick assessment of what I know of this area of law (my focus was criminal law, but I've studied it all in some manner), I would say repinning a lock would likely be considered "damage".

[Squelchtone]

Guys I'm hearing a lot of lawyering and arm chair experting going on here, unless you know UK clamping laws, or are a lawyer, don't assume and apply what ever TV show law you may know to this situation. Since when on earth would there be a court order to clamp a car?? maybe a local law for parking somewhere illegal, or having expired tag, or too many tickets, but I don't see a judge bothering with issuing a full blown court order, doesn't that sound silly to anyone else?

This whole thread is pointless, especially since the op admits he doesn't even own a car and is here asking about picking car clamp locks.

We have a certain responsibility to do our best and post the most factual information here that is available and verifiable, if we don't know 100% just say you don't know or don't chime in the thread just for the sake of replying to the newest thread because some law topic you kinda know may kinda apply to this situation.

Thanks for keeping topics on point, relevant, and clutter free. Locking this topic.

Squelchtone