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cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unlock

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cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unlock

Postby onlytw » 2 May 2014 11:59

I have seen something regarding this from couple of years ago. I just had the same problem and was looking for answers. Maybe I just don't understand this as well as I should or maybe I my issue is just a lit different. I was able to pick the lock on an office door deadbolt and turn the cylinder. The cylinder turns only half way so when I'm at the top the deadbolt will lock but not all the way. I am not able to rotate the cylinder all the way around. The pins do not reset until I turn the cylinder back down at which point the deadbolt is locked and the pins reset. Now, here is the problem..... when I pick the lock to unlock the deadbolt it will also turn half way and the deadbolt will move back but not all the way. Again, the pins will not reset at the top and the bolt will not move anymore. When I turn the cylinder back it will lock the bolt again and that is all of the motion I'm able to accomplish. So I am able to lock the deadbolt but not able to unlock it all the way...... Any thought?
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby silvfox1200 » 2 May 2014 12:37

Try picking it the opposite way. Sometimes you have to pick the lock the other way for it to work properly.

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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby onlytw » 2 May 2014 12:46

So even if the deadbolt moves the direction I picked it I should try to do with the other way? Keep in mind when I pick it and turn the cylinder the deadbolt moves just not old way...
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby onlytw » 2 May 2014 12:49

I just tried that and it still the same issue. The cylinder rotates halfway and stops. Regardless of which way I'm turning it.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby Divinorum » 2 May 2014 12:50

Have you tried using a little force when turning it. Sorry I caught this late. Do you have the key? The amount of force the key uses to fully turn the bolt should be the same amount of force used to turn the bolt with the tension wrench. If its to much to do with the wrench use a small flat head screw driver.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby onlytw » 2 May 2014 13:01

I used a little force and I used a lot of force. The cylinder just stops at the top and there's no way to move it further. It's like hitting a wall. Unfortunately I do not have a key for this lock so I don't even know if it works properly with the key. It seems to work fine from the inside of the room when I'm locking it and unlocking it with the knob.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 May 2014 13:08

The driver pins are dropping into the bottom of the keyway. Either rake them with a diamond, or use the flat back of a pick to lift the drivers into the bible, and you will be able to turn the plug. ;)

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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby Divinorum » 2 May 2014 13:21

GWiens2001 wrote:The driver pins are dropping into the bottom of the keyway. Either rake them with a diamond, or use the flat back of a pick to lift the drivers into the bible, and you will be able to turn the plug. ;)

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Once the lock is picked and the plug starts turning the bolt how can the driver pins drop down? Are you saying that once the plug turns half way that some driver pins are falling down through the other side of the plug?
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby GWiens2001 » 2 May 2014 14:16

They drop (under spring tension) into the open bottom of the keyway. Normally, the key prevents this from occurring.

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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby KPick » 2 May 2014 16:12

Like GWiens said!

You have to make sure the driver pins don't fall in the key-way. Usually, the bottom side of the key, keeps them in the bible. I have a Kwikset that does the same thing as well and it takes about 360 degrees to open/close.

Just place the back flat side of your pick on the drivers and press them into the bible, and apply tension while doing this so the plug rotates.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby silvfox1200 » 2 May 2014 18:40

Did you make sure the tension wrench is not binding.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby MadstaPasta » 30 Nov 2024 10:53

silvfox1200 wrote:Try picking it the opposite way. Sometimes you have to pick the lock the other way for it to work properly.


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Thank you so much, created an account just to say so, dont know how to @ you though. You answer let me break free of trying to unlock the lock while turning my tension wrench the wrong way.
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby Joe Momma » 1 Dec 2024 1:46

10.5 years old necropost :lol:
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Re: cylinder only turns half way, able to lock but not unloc

Postby Squelchtone » 1 Dec 2024 7:25

Joe Momma wrote:10.5 years old necropost :lol:


Funny enough this isn't even the forum record for necroposting. :)

Glad we have been around so long though!

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