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by 99atlantic » 23 Jan 2005 19:43
Out of curiousity, how come a twist flex tension wrench seems (atleast to me) superior to a regular tension wrench? I can't figure out the exact reason why, but it's like i need less force and time finding the best angle for it in the lock?
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by Exodus5000 » 23 Jan 2005 19:51
The twist flex allows for your fingers to cover a greater surface area on the wrench, so that you can feel the inner workings of the lock better. Also it has more "spring" to it which can serve as a guage.
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by thertel » 23 Jan 2005 20:01
I wouldn't say they are easier, just that they are more forgiving. This is because the twist will help prevent some overtensioning, but at the expense of the incredible feel provided by "Romstar Tensioners" (shameless renaming of Euro Tensioners). Basically what I personaly like is a rather large set of different thickness and width non twist tensioners that fit snuggly in the keyway. This allows more precise application of pressure on the tensioner and because of the snug fit the wrench almost becomes part of of the cylinder itself providing a more intense feedback as pins are set, and I find it really helps with security pins because when setting serrated pins there is a drastic difference in feel between a false and proper set.
All in all its an opinion thing, and when I first started I swore by the twist-flex because I tended, unknowingly, to apply way to much tension, and the wrench solved the problem. As I progressed in skill and knowledge I switched over to Euro Tensioners, for the reasons listed above.
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by skold » 23 Jan 2005 20:08
thertel wrote: Basically what I personaly like is a rather large set of different thickness and width non twist tensioners that fit snuggly in the keyway. This allows more precise application of pressure on the tensioner and because of the snug fit the wrench almost becomes part of of the cylinder itself providing a more intense feedback as pins are set, and I find it really helps with security pins because when setting serrated pins there is a drastic difference in feel between a false and proper set.
Vey true, i have 6 different tensioners that are not twist flex, and have different thicknesses. these are my most use wrenches as they provide a very nice stiff control over the amount of torque put on the plug.
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by thertel » 23 Jan 2005 20:20
Yea, I love mine, I made a set of 10 doubled ended ones in 10 different thicknesses and made each end a differeny width. I do still have some U-Bend blanks and a few twist flex tensioners, but they are mainly for emergency use when I don't have a wrench that will fit a lock, or in the when i need something really really thin.
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by WhiteHat » 23 Jan 2005 20:46
I have to say also that I originally preffered the twist/flex wrench but have come to prefer my own home made wrenches better.
I have yet to successfully make a euro-style wrench though - not that I've tried very hard - but every time I see those adjustable falle wrenches I start drooling.....
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by silent » 23 Jan 2005 21:48
The falel adjustable tensioners take about 15 min to make out of brickstrap and a dremel with a cut off wheel. Just grab 2 wingnuts, 2 bolts and start go'n at it.
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by WhiteHat » 23 Jan 2005 21:49
silent wrote:The falel adjustable tensioners take about 15 min to make out of brickstrap and a dremel with a cut off wheel. Just grab 2 wingnuts, 2 bolts and start go'n at it.
yeah - dremel - got to get me one of those. 
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by silent » 23 Jan 2005 21:57
They are deffintly worth the money. Ive moved/gutted 3 houses in the last 2 years, and its still purrn.
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by 99atlantic » 23 Jan 2005 22:27
does anybody have a link of a "falle adjustable tensioner" ? i've never heard/seen of them before.
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by RichVR » 25 Jan 2005 0:12
yeah - dremel - got to get me one of those. 
I have #8000-01 Lithium-Ion Cordless with the 220 piece accessory kit and the Flexible Shaft Extension.
I think I could actually make a living by being a travelling Dremel guy.
All my friends call me when they need work done.
You can find more info here:
http://www.dremel.com/html/home_fr.html
No I am not affiliated with Dremel, just a very satisfied customer.
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