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Few questions by a newbie

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Few questions by a newbie

Postby XxodinxX » 15 Jul 2015 15:52

Hello all
Just a few questions to begin with...
Do people actually use bump keys or is it an easy way out taking away the art of lock picking?

How many lock pick sets does the averageerson have?

How many years experience does the average person have?

Is there anyone here from the UK?

That's all for now folks.
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Few answers by an oldie

Postby MBI » 15 Jul 2015 16:27

XxodinxX wrote:Hello all
Just a few questions to begin with...
1) Do people actually use bump keys or is it an easy way out taking away the art of lock picking?

2) How many lock pick sets does the averageerson have?

3) How many years experience does the average person have?

4) Is there anyone here from the UK?

That's all for now folks.


1) Yes and... maybe sort of, I guess. Or not.

2) Hard to measure. Some picks are sold as sets (with a lot of useless garbage cluttering it up), a lot of picks are sold individually and a lot of folks make their own picks. But if I had to guess I'd say most beginners have one set. People who stick with it for a while probably end up with two or three. As for the tool wh0res... could be dozens of sets.

3) How many roads must a man walk down? Or do you mean experience in lockpicking? I hope that's what you mean. Because otherwise that question opens up the discussion to a whole host of things. In terms of regular activity on the lockpicking forums I'd guess 6-12 months on average, with a smaller group of serious pickers who stick with it for years.

4) Yes. Or did you mean besides yourself? In which case, yes.

Also, welcome to the forum.

Please bear in mind, these answers are just one person's opinion.
Some things about this hobby are set in stone, such as the ethics:
- Don't pick a lock that doesn't belong to you, or which you have permission from the OWNER to pick.
- Don't pick a lock that's in use and you rely on for your own security.
- Obey your local laws pertaining to picks and picking.
- Use your head: Don't do things that'll get you in trouble, even if it's technically legal, and don't teach anyone to pick if you don't think they'll be able to follow these guidelines.
Aside from ethics, you'll find a lot of differing opinions about lockpicking, even among "experts". Use the search button, do research and form your own opinions before blindly accepting the words of any one person as absolute fact.

Oh, and as a completely separate suggestion I'd recommend partially disassembling a lock for practice instead of using a cutaway, as you mentioned in your introductory post. Picking a cutaway is very common for someone starting out but unfortunately the feedback is different than with a regular lock. And feeling that feedback is critical, as well as not relying on watching what the pins are doing.

If you disassemble a lock except for maybe one or two pin stacks then learn to pick that, you'll get started much more easily. Then when you master that, add one pin stack and learn to pick it that way. Keep going until you can pick it fully pinned. Then move on to other fully pinned locks. Mr Wizard makes a good practice lock that is very easy to repin, comes with extra pins and springs and good instructions. No, I don't get any money if you buy one of his locks. I've just found it's a good value for what it is.
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby streak » 15 Jul 2015 17:29

I'm also a newbie. I have one pick set but as has been mentioned I only use 2 or 3 of the 32 piece set.
Being concerned that I may break one of the frequently used picks I decided to try and make some myself which also adds another fun part to the hobby.
Satisfaction of picking a lock with tools you made yourself.
I have been a member here for many years but only started getting more serious a few weeks ago.

I have seen many contribution from folks in the UK where the sport seems to have quite a large following.

Welcome and have fun.
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby XxodinxX » 17 Jul 2015 2:10

Thanks for the reply guys...
I have just bought a practice lock from MrWizard, when it arrives I shall im sure be able to see a huge difference between that and the cutaway. With the cutaway I seem to have hit a dead end as its a 6 pin cutaway and i'm having trouble picking it. I'm told with the practice lock you can take the pins out so I will try with only one pin and work my way up, hopefully progressing my skill level. This forum has a LOAD of information, which I am studying on a daily basis as there is so much to learn. I hope to be a long standing member in this forum and when i have a better understanding of all things lock related I hope to give back to this forum what I got out of it.
Thank you.
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby arielschoenberg » 24 Aug 2015 13:47

XxodinxX wrote:Hello all
Just a few questions to begin with...
Do people actually use bump keys or is it an easy way out taking away the art of lock picking?

How many lock pick sets does the averageerson have?

How many years experience does the average person have?

Is there anyone here from the UK?

That's all for now folks.


1. A lot of people use Bump Keys but I think it is an easy way out and taking away the are lock picking. I am not saying that people who bump key are not skilled I just feel it is a completely different thing then lock picking.

2. That is hard question to answer there are people who get sets and never throw them away they love to collect them. But on average I do believe they would have 3 or 4 sets.

3.N.A there are people in this field there entire lives, then there are some who just have a couple of year and then the people who just start. I dont really think there is an average amount of time a experience person has. You can be experience in the first year.

4. Yes, I am sure there are there are people on here all over the world
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby Corvid » 24 Aug 2015 18:27

Bumping locks isn't as easy as the media would have you believe. It takes more than some random dumb dumb with a spare key and a file to accomplish.

It's like pick guns and raking, to someone who has put in the time to understand and feel what they're doing, it's a fast way of getting through standard locks.

Fast doesn't necessarily mean easy, though. :)
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby paces » 25 Aug 2015 0:24

XxodinxX wrote:Hello all
Just a few questions to begin with...
Do people actually use bump keys or is it an easy way out taking away the art of lock picking?

How many lock pick sets does the averageerson have?

How many years experience does the average person have?

Is there anyone here from the UK?

That's all for now folks.


1: not made it to bump keys yet and i think it kinda takes away from the art.
2: i have two pick sets and only use about 3 picks i use more of my tension wrenches then picks
3: couple months
4: no me
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Re: Few questions by a newbie

Postby Journeyman » 4 Sep 2015 13:54

I've not got to bump keys yet. Still working on spp. I think it''s like any art or craft there are different ways of doing things and bump keys are just one of them.

I've got two sets, just bought a third, but use more tension tools than picks.

3 weeks for me (although one of the pick sets was from yeas ago (I didn't have patience for it then and stumbled across them recently) - now i'm really enjoying it

And i'm from the UK. I'm based in Bromley.
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