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Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 21:14

Hi Guys...

is it possible that locks I used to be able to open, I can't anymore? I'm not able to open anything tonight.

Jinx? I should get better... not worse! lol
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby billdeserthills » 13 Oct 2015 21:22

Thing is until you have mastered picking, you can become prone to losing your ability. Remember that most successful picking
is mostly about using the correct tension, & do yourself a favor & spray some lube into the lock you are working on. Don't make
yourself all crazy trying to force the ability to manifest itself. Worst case, you can pull apart a lock and take a few tumblers out,
until you learn again.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 21:30

Thanks for coating it :P

I'm trying on my garrison 40mm and a Yale File Cabinet lock, which I was able to do a couple days ago, repeatedly.
Now I get to 3 pin out of 4, bolt has shifted like 30 degrees, but I can't get any further...
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 21:38

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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 13 Oct 2015 21:50

Those probably have spool pins in them. There's a ton of info on spools here, such as http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60742&hilit There's tons of youtube vids on them also.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 21:53

I thought about that, but i'm not feeling any feed back, counter pressure, as would be felt...

Now I'm not discounting your advice :) It is entirely possible. It is also possible I'm not feeling them.

I appreciate the input
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 21:58

I'll be ... It was a spool!

http://i.imgur.com/AQzCdSP.jpg

I apologize for doubting. I should know better.

Thank you for setting me straight.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 13 Oct 2015 22:01

Nice work. Maybe try using very light tension. Counter-rotation is very subtle.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 13 Oct 2015 22:04

kwoswalt99- wrote:Nice work. Maybe try using very light tension. Counter-rotation is very subtle.


That yale is really old, I actually had to twist a bit back with the pick itself to make it go back as the springing mechanism seem to be relaxed.

Thanks again!
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 14 Oct 2015 10:37

After 2 successful unlock, I decided to gut it to see what's inside.

Since it's my first time gutting a padlock, I did an ok job... But a pin is stuck in the lock and I can't find one of the springs...

But here goes http://i.imgur.com/9TzmwSx.jpg

Look like a serrated and 2 spools, and some really small tumblers

EDIT: 3 Spool and 1 Serrated. Got the suk$@#$ out.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 14 Oct 2015 20:21

How did you take that Chinese one apart? That serrated is a pretty halfhearted attempt. I'm not even sure why they bother, when you can hardly even tell that it's there when picking.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 14 Oct 2015 21:16

I used a standing grinder and a column drill.

it's a bit dirty work. must be a better way
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby kwoswalt99- » 14 Oct 2015 21:41

You mean you ground and drilled off all of the pins? Those padlocks aren't meant to come apart, but I've found the best way is to drill a little hole in the caps and use a screw extractor to pull them out, with very little damage.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby Malekal » 14 Oct 2015 21:48

kwoswalt99- wrote:You mean you ground and drilled off all of the pins? Those padlocks aren't meant to come apart, but I've found the best way is to drill a little hole in the caps and use a screw extractor to pull them out, with very little damage.


I actually grinded 'till I saw the chambers, then drilled the cap off.

I did not know beforehand that I could just drill the caps off. I'll know next time.
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Re: Not working anymore?

Postby femurat » 15 Oct 2015 3:01

By the title of this post I thought you won the lottery or were thinking about retiring from work. You lucky old man :lol:

Cheers :)
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