Padlock with "Double Locking Levers"?

[Old-Iowan]

REAL newbie, REAL old man - Done a LOT of searching and downloading of info, bought a small set of good tools and I've picked my first 6 different locks in the last few days and the most expensive my wife got for me (I'm disabled and can't drive, NO sympathy required! but the wife does all my shopping) and on the package of the lock which has taken me the longest to pick it says it states "Double Locking Levers" for extra security - I searched and could not find out what "Double Locking Levers" means - Any info would be appreciated - Picking this for a new hobby/pastime - Thanks in advance

[MBI]

A picture of the lock might help, but if I had to guess I'd say it's a padlock and instead of just one locking pawl that enters the notch in the end of the shackle to keep it locked, it has notches in both ends of the shackle with a lever, or pawl, that engages each end of the shackle to keep it locked.

If that's what it is, it won't make picking any harder, just give a bit more resistance to some methods of destructive entry or bypass, although the details of both those subjects belong on the advanced forum.

Also, welcome to the forum.

[Old-Iowan]

Yes, it is a padlock - SORRY You've answered my question and it's greatly appreciated! Many Thanks - OI

A picture of the lock might help, but if I had to guess I'd say it's a padlock and instead of just one locking pawl that enters the notch in the end of the shackle to keep it locked, it has notches in both ends of the shackle with a lever, or pawl, that engages each end of the shackle to keep it locked.

If that's what it is, it won't make picking any harder, just give a bit more resistance to some methods of destructive entry or bypass, although the details of both those subjects belong on the advanced forum.

Also, welcome to the forum.

[Squelchtone]

I think some of us call them locking dogs, but Master calls them dual locking levers, theyr'e spring loaded little bits that go into the cutouts of the shackle to keep it inside the lock body. when you turn the key, it retracts both of them to allow the shackle to pop up. The lock it self is probably a regular pin tumbler lock, the levers are part of the locking mechanism, not the lock cylinder.

http://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-1TRIL ... B0002YP5RW

[Old-Iowan]

The other day I asked about a padlock my wife got me that had "Double locking levers" and "Pin Tumbler Key" for extra protection and I finally got it picked with the help of my previous question being answered It was a Master #1DEX - My wife got me another different Master #1DLF that I've spent about 5 hours on and haven't been able to pick it - This lock on the back states it has in addition to the "Double locking levers" and "Pin Tumbler Cylinder" and is rated on their system of Security of a #8, the other lock had no Security rating - SOOO, I can feel the some pins moving and can get the tension tool to move slightly after I hit several of the pins BUT that's it - Would it be correct to assume to "Keep Practicing" or is there something else I should know ??? - As of now I've viewed MANY of the You Tube videos and have the downloaded book by Mike Gibson - Do I need a better book or "Keep Practicing", both or ???? Feel free to comment - Thanks in advance

[Squelchtone]

The other day I asked about a padlock my wife got me that had "Double locking levers" and "Pin Tumbler Key" for extra protection and I finally got it picked with the help of my previous question being answered It was a Master #1DEX - My wife got me another different Master #1DLF that I've spent about 5 hours on and haven't been able to pick it - This lock on the back states it has in addition to the "Double locking levers" and "Pin Tumbler Cylinder" and is rated on their system of Security of a #8, the other lock had no Security rating - SOOO, I can feel the some pins moving and can get the tension tool to move slightly after I hit several of the pins BUT that's it - Would it be correct to assume to "Keep Practicing" or is there something else I should know ??? - As of now I've viewed MANY of the You Tube videos and have the downloaded book by Mike Gibson - Do I need a better book or "Keep Practicing", both or ???? Feel free to comment - Thanks in advance

I have merged your new topic with the one you posted a couple days ago as it is pretty much a continuation of the same question.

Disregard that there are double locking levers, it's just marketing bulls*it to make you think it's a good lock. Master listing that it is a pin tumbler cylinder which makes it harder to pick, pretty much means it's better than closing your shed with rope, their marketing folks are good at making pin tumbler sound like it's some sort of high security lock. It's just a 4 pin lock.

Which pickset are you using and out of that pick set which pick shape are you using? are you raking or single pin picking? A photo of your lock will help more than the #1DEX and #1DLF part numbers, can you google for a photo of your padlock or can you take a photo in your photobucket or tinypic or dropbox and show us a picture of the lock and your pickset? we can then offer much better advice.

Most new pickers put too much tension on the tension wrench, some put far too little.. press hard enough so the wrench starts to bow a little, but no so hard that your finger turns white while pressing the metal. That will be the right amount of tension.

and yes, keep practicing!
Squelchtone

[Old-Iowan]

Squelchtone - Again, Thank for your advice - I'm using a Petersons BREACHERS MINI PICK SET and am mainly using the single hook - I will do my best to post photos when I'm able to - My best regards

[Old-Iowan]

I picked up the lock I've not been able to pick for my first try of the day, lessened the amount of pressure on the tension bar and it popped open in less than 30 seconds. WHO KNEW