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anti pick locks

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anti pick locks

Postby Clamplee » 18 Feb 2005 6:43

Hi. Very new to this but find it fascinating. I apologise if this subject has already been covered, as I say I'm new and not yet ventured out into the real world I brought some pin tumbler locks and a small set of picks, after about ten minuets on the first lock it opened, what a wonderful feeling, I progressed to the other locks including a euro lock now able to open all the locks I have in a matter of minutes. I got hold of a anti pick (Yale) lock and so far it is proving to be just that I can set the pins or at least what seems like 4 of the 6 but no further now over to the experts I can't believe that it is anti pick. I'm just hoping for guidance from your wealth of knowledge
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Postby Grudge » 18 Feb 2005 10:45

Anti-pick is about as meaningful as "Tastes Great" or "New and Improved". Tastes great compared to what, dog food? New and improved from what, miserable to poor?

Anti-pick is generally composed of one of more of the following: restricted keyway, tight tolerances (which reduce the ease of getting pins to set), special driver pins (mushrooms or spools), non-standard pin configurations (tubular locks, dimple locks) or no pins at all (disk tumblers, magnetic locks, IR, radio), sidebars, rotating pins and so on (which means I probably forgot some). Sometimes Anti-pick just means it has a funky configuration which isn't really secure BUT a standard Southord pick set won't do it (most tubular locks fall into this category).

Cost doesn't always provide a 100% indicator either. The Brinks sheilded padlock available from Walmart for about $11 has spools and is one tough cookie. However the Brinks rekeyable padlock has spools and is about the same as a Masterlock (I believe because of the really poor tolerances).

That being said, Anti-pick doesn't mean unpickable. It just means it may take longer or require special tools or techniques.
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Postby toomush2drink » 18 Feb 2005 10:50

Ok no problem do a search for yale in the european section, if its the older type mos tlikley 2 spool pins so thats your next search. If its one of the new x5 series put it away and find something easier to start with. The x5 is in the euro section 2 with some photos of it disassembled so you know why i said put it away.

So you need to search for: Yale, spool pins, and x5 in the euro sections

Welcome and enjoy.
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Anti pick locks

Postby Clamplee » 18 Feb 2005 12:13

THANK GUYS. Pretty much as I thought, may be I’ll get a few extra different picks and just keep practicing. Unfortunately in one respect it is a new X5 so I’ll take your advice and do more research, I haven’t found too much information on picking mortise looks, suggestions!
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Postby EvoRed » 18 Feb 2005 12:29

There is quite a lot of stuff on picking mortice locks with 2 wires, curtain wheel picks and BS kits in the Euro section... Just search and yee shall find!
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Postby EvoRed » 18 Feb 2005 12:37

Sorry, I should have added 2-in-1 picks too for non-curtain locks. Enjoy your search!
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