Beginners kit too limited?

[klarre]

Hi.

So I just received my new practicing cylinder. This https://shop.multipick.com/en/lock-pick ... g-cylinder.

But with my pickers I'm only able to lift the first two pins. The pickers I have was a gift and I have no idea what kit it is. But I suspects it's a very basic one.

Anyway, I'm trying to figure out if the basic beginner pickers I have are not suited for this cylinder lock or if I just haven't grasp how to reach the pins. I open my padlocks with no problems, but on this I'm stuck.

Does it make sense to think that I have to get myself more professional pickers to be able to pick this cylinder lock?

Thanks!

[GWiens2001]

Can you please post a picture of your picks? It would help us to give you a better answer.

Gordon

[klarre]

[GWiens2001]

That can be a reasonable kit, but need to take a file and thin down the shaft of the picks. Especially towards the handle end of the shaft. It is so thick that while you are reaching into the lock to access the back pins, the shaft can be pushing down on the pins closest to the opening of the keyway.

Also, take various grades of sandpaper and take off the sharp edges and points. If you work your way down to some really find sandpaper, you will end up with a mirror finish and the picks will almost seem to glide in and out of the lock.

Gordon.

[klarre]

I'm sure your solution would work, but I'm thinking about getting a more professional kit instead. After some research I've come to the conclusion to get either a Peterson kit or a Multipick kit. And since I live in Europe and haven't yet found a reseller of Peterson pickers I'm thinking about getting this one https://shop.multipick.com/en/lock-pick ... 11-pickset

For tension wrenches I will go for this kit https://shop.multipick.com/en/lockpick- ... pcs-a-case

Getting these two kits would take me pretty far in my new hobby, right?

[Gantry]

[quote="klarre"]I'm sure your solution would work, but I'm thinking about getting a more professional kit instead. After some research I've come to the conclusion to get either a Peterson kit or a Multipick kit. And since I live in Europe and haven't yet found a reseller of Peterson pickers I'm thinking about getting this one https://shop.multipick.com/en/lock-pick ... 11-pickset

For tension wrenches I will go for this kit https://shop.multipick.com/en/lockpick- ... pcs-a-case

I live here in the States but was so impressed with Mulitpick that I bought their Multipick ELITE Dual Gauge Lock pick set. It's not cheap and it's probably than you need as a beginning picker but one of their others
sets should do well for you and will last for years. I would recommend getting the biggest set you can afford (just make sure to take care of them). Living in Europe you'll most likely want to make sure you get some of the slim line picks (0.4mm) because of the narrower key ways that you have in Europe. Hope that helps...

[klarre]

The Elite Dual Gauge looks nice. Unfortunately it is out of stock at the moment so I need to wait for it if I decide to order it. I've also looked at their slim kit which has only 0.4 mm picks. I think I'm going to wait for the dual Gauge to get back in stock but at the same time I've eager to get started with the picking so might order the slim kit instead. Oh, well. Anyway, thanks for the response!

[blue60]

I'm sure your solution would work, but I'm thinking about getting a more professional kit instead. After some research I've come to the conclusion to get either a Peterson kit or a Multipick kit. And since I live in Europe and haven't yet found a reseller of Peterson pickers I'm thinking about getting this one https://shop.multipick.com/en/lock-pick ... 11-pickset

For tension wrenches I will go for this kit https://shop.multipick.com/en/lockpick- ... pcs-a-case

Getting these two kits would take me pretty far in my new hobby, right?

The tools you have are more then fine, it takes more then tools to open a lock.



the pick and wrench in that photo were $3.00 and I did nothing to them.
If you want a fancy new kit then just buy it, if you want to learn to pick locks then the tools you have will get you there in time with practice on real locks (not cutaways) .

[GWiens2001]

He lives in Europe, so the keyways tend to be tighter and more paracentric.

Gordon

[pemlock]

i recognize that set. Fairly common and sold under different names. It's not that bad actually, for the price point, but as already mentioned, needs some polishing as they can be quite rough around the edges.
Another problem that it shares with many "beginner's kits" is that it's perhaps unnecessarily many rakes and too few hooks, and in particular, not enough tensioners. It just has one, or two if you count the one that's supposed to be used for curtained car locks and the like. (The 8th from the top, with the little sharp hook, isn't even a pick btw, it's a broken key extractor.)

Polish it and use it. Buy additional hooks with different profiles (and perhaps a couple of thinner ones), and more tensioners of course. Top-of-keyway in particular.