Bi Locks

by **LameName** » 24 Feb 2005 23:53

Hi im a new member, heres some background info on me if anyone's interested:
I started learning how to pick locks about 2 months ago with the help of the MIT guide, so far i have picked three 5 pin tumbler locks, two 3 wafer locks, and mostly by pure luck, 2 really old - 4 pin padlocks (by a company called crown).
The reason i took up lockpicking is that i just didn't really believe that it was possible. But low and behold, i proved myself wrong, however im certainly not going to be commiting crime with this new skill, its purely a hobby.
Anyway, my current equipment isn't what you call professional, im only using a safety pin to pick and a paper clip as a torque wrench, plus a small piece of metal to lock/unlock the plug. I have my hands on some hacksaw blades at the moment so i shall start to make some better tools soon.

Any here are some questions i have:

--In Australia i have noticed some locks called Bi Locks. Its a pin tumbler lock with the slot for the key in the shape of a U so that both tips of the U have pins(6) on each side. I have got my hands on a Bi lock key and i have read the words Australia Patent on it so i was wondering: has anyone out there seen bi locks in other parts of the world? If so, is at all possible to pick these locks because to me it looks a little difficult to do so. I have seen these locks on nearly all the doors through my university.

--What makes a good torque wrench for pad locks? I have used a sewing needle to open a padlock while picking with a safety pin, doing so in only a matter of minutes for my first time, but i need something that doesn't hurt as much, and i cant seem to do it again.

Any help would be appreciated.

by **WhiteHat** » 25 Feb 2005 0:25

I'm sure skold or luke will pipe up about this one - basically the most effective techniques for bilocks appears to be raking with a two-pronged pick and a tension wrench designed to apply tension evenly - although it's not usually discussed in the open forum because they're regarded as "high security" locks. they'r probably not the best lock to start learning on either.

you may also want to take note - being our first NT member that I'm aware of - the law thread:
viewtopic.php?t=285

has a section of the summary offences act of the NT - without the "with intent" or "places of abode" clauses that seems to be in most other state's laws - be a bit carefull.

by **LameName** » 25 Feb 2005 0:38

I read the stuff in that link the other day before i joined, If i remember it said that its only leagal to do it in your own home, but illegal to carry them in public.

Im not really looking to pick a Bi lock, just interested in knowing if they're pickable. Plus i dont think i'd be able to make a suitable pick for them any way.

by **digital_blue** » 25 Feb 2005 0:42

LameName wrote:--What makes a good torque wrench for pad locks? I have used a sewing needle to open a padlock while picking with a safety pin, doing so in only a matter of minutes for my first time, but i need something that doesn't hurt as much, and i cant seem to do it again.

If you are looking around your house for stuff to improvise with, look for a pen cap that has a metal clip. Slide the clip out and bend it to a 90 degree angle. Otherwise, a bent hair pin works well.

If your interest in lockpicking continues you will likely want to either purchase or make a set of real tools (though do check about the laws... wouldn't want you getting in a tough spot over it).

Hope this helps.

db

by **skold** » 25 Feb 2005 3:41

BiLocks like to be jiggled with a nice set of computer picks..

I't is also advisable that you can pick a standard C4 lockwood with over 1000 variant combonations...gives alot of practice..

Goodluck,
Skold

by **Hojo** » 26 Feb 2005 9:01

Whitehat
I'm sure skold or luke will pipe up about this one....

Oooo im not good enough am I...

I am the genuis behind most of the Bi-Lock Idea's :roll:

by **quicklocks** » 26 Feb 2005 9:46

here we go hand bags at 10 yards :lol:

by **rayman452** » 26 Feb 2005 10:37

Just out of curiosity, what is a computer pick? Also, wouldn't a fulldiamond modifyed to fit into the lock act as a good rake? Perhaps I'll learn more about bi-locks at a later date...if I ever get into advance forums...pretty sure I have a pic I could desin. Bi locks also would seem like they could be opened with a bump key also, right? If you own your own key, with any cuts, as long asa theres a lowest cut, you could make your own. Just my little rambling on of thoughs...ignore me...

by **raimundo** » 26 Feb 2005 10:41

A computer pick looks like it was designed by a drunk with parkinsons disease trying to draw a straight line with a sanfords sharpie.

by **Romstar** » 26 Feb 2005 13:53

raimundo wrote:A computer pick looks like it was designed by a drunk with parkinsons disease trying to draw a straight line with a sanfords sharpie.

Now THAT was bloody well funny.

Thanks for the laugh Ray.

Romstar

by **raimundo** » 26 Feb 2005 14:25

given that bilocks seem to have only about 4 different changes of pin length, it is probably that computer pics should be made specifiacally for this lock rather than use the twenty pics fits everything set.

by **skold** » 26 Feb 2005 16:45

Hojo wrote:
Whitehat
I'm sure skold or luke will pipe up about this one....

Oooo im not good enough am I...

I am the genuis behind most of the Bi-Lock Idea's

HaHaHa...btw, which ideas?

by **Hojo** » 27 Feb 2005 4:50

Pssh, You know what im talking about....Somthing alnong the lines of The tensioner....Ok, so maybe only one Idea, but still a key in picking the lock....

by **skold** » 27 Feb 2005 5:06

You mean that stupid 3 pronged crap?

by **Hojo** » 28 Feb 2005 6:35

And the two prong

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