What's Most Secure?

[Fasthands]

Which Brand Of Lock Is Most Secure?

I'm looking to build a makeshift safe and need to know.

[Guesss]

if you are making a safe the lock is definatelly important but you have to tahink of the other ways in because that is how to get into a safe, Make sure you are thinking about the hinges and the bottom and top cause if i can pop the hinges there is no need to have a safe lock. You might as well lock it with a lock out of a quater machine. Just thoughts to think on. The easiest way in is usually not through the front. To use the stupid cleiche a chain is only as strong as the weakest link.

[Fasthands]

The idea behind it is to have a safe, set in concrete, with a removeable door, with no hinges. 6 high security deadbolts hold it in place. the door is set onto four pieces of rebar and locked into place. even with five locks disabled, it cannot be opened

[raimundo]

try this, make it so that to use the key, you have to reach into a recess the size of your hand and put the key into the lock at an upwards angle, this will make drilling more difficult.

[kodierer]

Why would best, and yale locks even be on that question. I don't know about the zeiss. Medeco is without a doubt the most secure, but abloy has to be a very close second. I would put Assa in 3rd, and from there who knows.
I think a good lock/key system would have a transponder in the key, a standard pin system, with a dimple sidebar, and perhaps a lever in the end
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[noctorum]

I'd recommend to purchase a safe rather than build one. Most are not remarkably expensive, and are both fireproof and waterproof.

[HeadHunterCEO]

hoe about some of those lever locks the euros have to live with?

[master in training]

if it was me, i'd just put in more than one lock, i know i bought a safe for £10 with a 10 lever lock in it (most doors i've seen have 5 or 6), then get something like the medeco on as well, then sidebars etc as suggested already.

another good idea for safe security is people not knowing about it, you hide it well and people wont know its there, so they wont try and break into it

[toomush2drink]

As far as i can tell alllof those locks could be drilled no problem as they are surface mounted so none are very secure. As mentioned already how about a nice lever safe lock ? As these are mounted on the inside drilling is not such an easy option and also you need a fair bit more knowledge to know where to drill.
A very quick search shows you can get them cheap too http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=63891&item=7500697112&rd=1

[master in training]

i'd be sneaky and have some fancy looking lock thats really hard to drill and pick, then the real safe lever lock hidden, so people go for the decoy lock, waste time with it then give up and leave it.

[vector40]

Agreed that you should go with something purchased; buying your materials plus six top-shelf deadbolts will almost certainly end up costing you more anyway.

[Fasthands]

all good ideas, but this is going to be built into a concrete wall.
it's essentially a recess with an armored cover plate.

[master in training]

how about a slightly stupid idea i thought up when i was bored once? find some way to modify the locks then buy all sorts of high security locks and make it so that you have to open all of the locks in order to open the door, so opening lock 1 allows lock 2 to be unlocked etc...