Half-circle keyways

by **MaaX** » 22 Mar 2005 7:35

Hi,
When I was seeking for some locks to pick in my area, I've found some padlocks with really weird keyways. It was like a hole but with the shape of a half-circle. I was wondering if anyone could provide some information about it...

by **poisoned** » 22 Mar 2005 7:45

abloy..?

by **raimundo** » 22 Mar 2005 10:10

The old style abloy keyway, looks like D and there are 7 to 10 discs inside that also have the D cut in the, but the key itself is cut to less than have a pie, but always more than a quarter of a pie there are seven cuts between the half pie and the quarter pie, if memory serves. Correct me if you have better information.

by **kehveli** » 22 Mar 2005 10:23

Actually there are only 6 cuts, which are numbered from 0 to 5. Usually a 0 denotes that nothing is cut from the key and the disc will turn maximum amount and 5 denotes a cut that does not turn the corresponding disc at all.

If I recall correct, some locks may also have 11 discs, the first one being a drill protection disc that does not have a stop lug. It is corresponds a 0 cut on the key.

MaaX, you should check if there reads ABLOY or Finland anywhere on the lock. All abloy padlocks that I have seen are stamped ABLOY. The lock may also be a cheap copycat.

by **mckutzy** » 22 Mar 2005 10:53

also maax. u should make sure that the lock is not attached to anything .
it is a high security lock and the put it there for a reason.just to let u know

by **MaaX** » 26 Mar 2005 8:02

Hi,
I re-checked and, yes, it was an abloy. Thanks for the information, but how would I pick it?

by **digital_blue** » 26 Mar 2005 8:28

The abloy lock has a series of discs that need to rotate to specifc points to line up a series of gates which will allow a disebar to enter, and let the plug rotate. They work more like a combination lock than a tumbler lock. They are quite difficult to pick because the discs are not spring-biased, so they provide little feedback. To successfully pick this lock you would need to rotate all of the discs to their correct position.

db

by **MaaX** » 29 Mar 2005 11:33

Well, did you get the chance to pick one, or anybody else? 'Cause I'm very interested, and I need the maximum info before going to pick them.

by **mckutzy** » 29 Mar 2005 13:02

dude its high security. im a n00b and im not going to get that type of info so dont ask, u have to be invited to that forum. read the FAQs.

by **master in training** » 29 Mar 2005 13:10

MaaX wrote:Well, did you get the chance to pick one, or anybody else? 'Cause I'm very interested, and I need the maximum info before going to pick them.

1. it sounds like you're still a bit of a noob, if so, you wont be able to pick it, so forget about it for a while until you get a lot better at picking, its a high security lock, not just anyone can pick it.

2. with asking for maximum info before picking it, it sounds like its on something and belongs to soemone else, you want all the info you can get so you can pick it and get it quickly before anyone notices, which this forum certainly doesnt encourage.

by **digital_blue** » 29 Mar 2005 20:59

Actually, the Abloy's are a high security lock and details really shouldn't be discussed on the public forum anyway. I probably already said more than I should have.

db

by **skold** » 30 Mar 2005 3:50

open it, look at how it works, then build picks and pick it..i wsih i could give you a more detailed answer .. but ..

by **MaaX** » 31 Mar 2005 14:43

I don't understand. Are the techniques to pick abloy locks are a secret or what?

by **mckutzy** » 31 Mar 2005 15:36

more or less on this forum.

by **digital_blue** » 31 Mar 2005 15:55

Maax. Certain locks deemed to be high security are not allowed to be discussed on an open forum because it is, well, open.

There is a risk (be it probably fairly small) that people with less than honourable intentions might try to use various bypass methods found on this site to commit a crime. These high security locks are used because the owners wish not to have them opened by those who are not authorized. There needs to be a line drawn in the sand somewhere as to what can and can't be discussed on the open forum, and our moderators have determined that high security locks, safes, and automotive are topics which should not be discussed on the open forums.

If you choose to continue your involvement for some time and are interested in gaining more knowledge about these topics for the purposes of advancing your skills in this hobby, then you can apply for adminttance to the advanced forums at the appropriate time. These rules are in place to protect the site and maintain the integrity of our hobby, so please understand that there must be some information that is protected.

Hope this clears it up.

db

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