Stuck on this Lock

[kmapf]

(Im newb)I just started lockpicking, but i just can't pick our own home lock, it's a DOM, can anyone please tell me what to do with these locks ?

[master in training]

plain and simple. dont pick it.

theres a high chance you'll end up breaking the lock and then your parents wont be best pleased to say the least.

what are you using to pick, what country are you in and what have you read?

if you really want to pick, get yourself a small set of picks, a fairly cheap practise lock and read the FAQ's and take the advice they tell you, such as reading the MIT guide and practising a lot!

being your first post we have no idea who you are, you could be trying to break into a neighbours house. imagine you were on the receiving end of it, you wouldnt be happy if someone could get told how to break into your house, so...

[raimundo]

if thats a dom ix its eight or ten dimple pins in a crossways keyway, very tight lock, inlikely you will pick it, but look into bump keys and if you make one, use the rubber bumpers shown in some of the bump key demos available by using the search button. I am going to assume you live in europe, possibly germany from the name of your lock, am I right? Dom should bump if you read the papers on bumping and don't as the dutch squatter who posted about bumping this week said, "smash" the bump key, its a matter of tapping, and the rubber bumper gives a springback motion as well as protecting the lock face from the hammering of the key shoulder. I have a schlage cylinder that I was bumping using spoons and butterknifes as hammers, and it has a dent in the plug face from the shoulder of the key, brass lost to nickelsilver I guess.

[kmapf]

Okee brr i will be very carefull with the lock (My parents will be REALLY angry if i would break the lock ) Im from Holland. And I just used a paperclip

[kmapf]

O and, the MIT-Lockpicking-guide is rather diffecult for me to understand, because I'm not native english. And there arent such good Dutch guides either...

[master in training]

http://www.babelfish.altavista.com

just one of lots of language translators, go to the site, its all very easy to use.

hope it helps

you probably won't pick your house door lock with a paperclip, if it is a dimple lock as raimundo said, im pretty sure you need special picks, picking a normal lock with a paperclip is hard, a DOM lock would be impossible!

[kmapf]

http://www.babelfish.altavista.com

just one of lots of language translators, go to the site, its all very easy to use.

hope it helps

you probably won't pick your house door lock with a paperclip, if it is a dimple lock as raimundo said, im pretty sure you need special picks, picking a normal lock with a paperclip is hard, a DOM lock would be impossible!

Thanks dude!

[master in training]

my pleasure

i'm happy to help, if there's anything else you need, i'm sure everyone on the site will help

[kmapf]

Ok, now I'm working on another lock, this one seems not so diffecult, but i still cant pcik it, it has 3 pins and really 2 tiny pins. I really need some help with this one how to get the correct pins. I'm neck is getting stiff

[kmapf]

Ok, now I'm working on another lock, this one seems not so diffecult, but i still cant pcik it, it has 3 pins and really 2 tiny pins. I really need some help with this one how to get the correct pins. I'm neck is getting stiff

i can't edit posts sorry for the bad english...

[master in training]

edit is turned off in most places, dont worry about the bad english, mine isn't much better and im from england!

do you know the make of the lock you're working on now? it will definately help us to give you advice on picking it. you will need some real picks though, you will probably struggle to pick anything without them. try to make some of even better buy a cheap set. a set with 4 picks and a tension tool will cost about 25-30 Euro's, depending on the exchange rate.

[kmapf]

Yeah, I thought about bying a Pick-set. I just read a artical about lockpicking at howstuffworks.com, and I know now that u have to get all the pins on the shear line ( ) But, a key can hold all the pins up at their correct place, but if i use a pick or whatever, I can't hold all of them at the correct place, because a pick has an flat surface, am I correct ?

[master in training]

read through the MIT guide, it will help a lot. you don't seem to understand the basic ideas of picking to be honest. you use a tension wrench to turn the lock part like a key would, then a pick to lift up each pin and because the lock isnt perfect, they will stay up. but they bind (stick) in a different order, so you can't lift the pins up in order, like front to back, you have to pick them in the order they bind. it is not an easy thing to learn and you have to work your way up from easy locks with 3 or 4 pins to harder locks like the one you are trying to pick now.

if the lock you are trying to pick is yours, take it apart and take all but one pin out then practise picking that.

you can find instructions on how to take locks apart on this site, use the search button to try and find some.

[kmapf]

Well, you are absolutely right about my knowledge of lockpicking . And what about the lock, it's my parents (it's a box). I will purchase a new lock with 3-4 pins and take it apart

[master in training]

what do you mean its a box? could you post a picture of it?

if it has flat bits instead of round bits inside it means it is a wafer lock not a pin lock, these are usually easier to pick, but it is still the best idea to get a lock you can take apart. you will be able to find locks for free in bins and dumps, people throw away old doors that sometimes have locks in. go to a locksmiths as well and ask for any locks they are throwing away that you can have.