New (?) User-rekeyable locks

by **ndgreen** » 27 Jun 2005 22:22

Hi Guys,

I was wandering through the security section of my local hardware store the other day and saw something rather interesting...my apologies to all if this is old news!

Basically, it is a standard sized pin-cylinder, with two keys (a daily use key and a 'change' key). Say, for example, that you have purchased two lock sets (called 'Set 1' and 'Set 2' for convenience). You would insert the 'change key' from 'Set 1' into the lock, and rotate to the 12 o'clock position, then remove the key. Insert the change key from 'Set 2' and return to the normal (6 o'clock position) and remove.

Hey presto! Both locks are now keyed to 'Set 2'. I am assuming that they work by using multiple spacers in the pin stacks (which would make this 're-keying' easy, but seriously undermine the security of the lock).

Has anyone seen these previously? I can't find anything in the LP 101 search, and am curious about your collective experiences.

Cheers,

N.

by **rayman452** » 28 Jun 2005 9:31

Well, without pictures or a brand name, I can only guess Small Format Interchangable Cores (SFIC), and I'm gusing that theres like a figure eight in a sense for the keyhole way, if you get what I mean. If not, pictures would help please, or even a brand.

by **Grudge** » 28 Jun 2005 9:43

They do have some 'contractor' locks in the U.S. which contain a small ball bearing in the pin stack. Once the home owner uses their key (which has different cuts), the ball bearing gets deposited in a little 'well' along side the cylinder wall and the original 'contractor' key won't work any more. Doesn't sound exactly like what you described, so I guess I am with Rayman in requesting brand/pics.

by **ndgreen** » 28 Jun 2005 17:20

Rayman, the key way is your standard profile, nothing spectacular, no figure 8.

Grudge, the keying can be switched back and forth between as many 'change' keys as you have, as often as you like, so I don't think it is a one -off ball bearing job.

I will get some photo's (if someone can tell me how to post them on here). The other interesting thin I noticed is that the warding of the change key is different from the user key, so that the change key CAN be removed when at the 12 o'clock position, and the user key CAN NOT be removed.

N.

by **rayman452** » 28 Jun 2005 18:31

http://www.imageshack.us

That site you can upload your pictures. MCM has as post on how to upload exactly, and I'll find it for you in a bit.

by **rayman452** » 28 Jun 2005 18:46

Ok, after spending 20 minutes searching for it...

mcm151201 wrote:You will have to first configure your computer to sync with the device through universal serial bus or some other similar protocal, then place the compact disc provided with the manufacturer of the camera into your opictal drive. After loading the disk, you should install the software drivers included on it so the camera and system can properly communicate. Then load and render the picture as you see fit (with a graphics editing program such as Adobe Photoshop), and export it to your hard drive as a jpg, gif, or other such acceptable file format. Also make sure to name the file an appropriate title. Next you have to connect to your ISP and find a server which provides HTTP hosting for you. After adding yourself to their database tables and obtaining a log in ID and password string, log onto their systems and upload the file in question to their servers, taking note of the URL of the file. Then copy and past the URL to these forums. Good luck.

That should explain it all.

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 28 Jun 2005 19:33

U-change?

by **Mad Mick** » 28 Jun 2005 20:30

Why should I change? I'm happy being me! Why don't U-change, jack-donkey! :lol:

by **ndgreen** » 28 Jun 2005 20:36

Jack-donkey? Ahhh (sound of penny dropping!) :lol:

Headhunter, it is not a U-Change cylinder. The change key has exactly the same bitting as the user key, and is the same size. The only difference *that I can see) is that the warding of the change key has been largely removed, to allow for it's removal from the plug.

I will attempt to get some pdecent photos today, and post them tomorrow.

N.

by **mupet** » 28 Jun 2005 20:52

are thay pin or wafer locks as i have seen a wafer lock that works like you discribed but would not use them as the wafers move and drop to the sher line ( A small problem for a door lock)

by **ndgreen** » 28 Jun 2005 20:56

Mupet, they are definitely (if my rapidly failing memory serves) pins, not wafers. I'm not sure what you mean by the wafers dropping to the sheer-line, but in this lock the pins are definitely raised (if the lock is installed that way) to the sheer-line, just like any normal one.

N.

by **mupet** » 28 Jun 2005 21:02

Master relesed a type of domestic lock that you could rekey

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 28 Jun 2005 21:03

Mad Mick wrote:Why should I change? I'm happy being me! Why don't U-change, jack-donkey!

hey man wheres the uchange pics?

by **ndgreen** » 29 Jun 2005 17:46

Hey People,

Here are the images of the new lock I was talking about.

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img85.echo.cx/img85/7528/dsc19576cn.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img44.echo.cx/img44/2489/dsc19581rq.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img240.echo.cx/img240/2743/dsc19592yo.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.imageshack.us][img]http://img91.echo.cx/img91/39/dsc19602zk.jpg[/url]

The locks are Australian made (Queensland - Chrispy's neck of the woods!) by a company called RIELDA (model is called Gold Key).

The gold coloured key is the change key.

They also make oval cylinders, spherical locks, "high security' padlocks, double sided locks etc.

Any idea how they work?

N.

by **ndgreen** » 29 Jun 2005 17:47

My sincere apologies people. I obviously haven;t got the hang of the photo attachment thingy yet. I thought the photos were pretty small in size, but

N.

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