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WOW look at this!

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WOW look at this!

Postby mike-z » 20 Oct 2005 20:19

http://www.buyasafe.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=299
Pry resistant.
Bolt cutter tough, hardened cast steel construction.
Patented lock core, 10 pin tubuler key is pick and drill resistant.
Easy to use, push button cylinders and pivot links twist and fold.
Overall weight: 7.3 pounds.
Overall length: 21-1/2"
Cuff diameter is 3 inches
Made of 1045 steel, nickel-chrome plated and case hardened to Rockwell 50.
Tested at 15,000 pounds of pulling force, and over 25,000 pounds of cutting force.

Covered by MASTER LOCK unconditional full lifetime warranty.
And limited ANTI-THEFT warranty: $4,000 ANTI-THEFT protection by MASTER.

10 pins!
wow and its protected from a warente i think some one shuld take that challenge to pick it
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Postby mike-z » 20 Oct 2005 20:20

(i ment 10 pin tube)
is it possible to pick a 10 pin tube like ive never seen a pick for a 10 pin tube lock before
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Postby quickpicks » 20 Oct 2005 20:45

Pick, yes so long as a key opens the lock. There are many other flaws with this product and I am sure it can be bypassed in a few different ways. Anyone tried paper keys on theese Master Slops?
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Postby Mad Mick » 20 Oct 2005 20:51

10 pin tubuler key is pick and drill resistant

'resistant' and 'proof' are two different things.
Is it possible to pick...never seen a pick for a 10 pin...

There were probably no 7 & 8 pin picks for Ace locks when they first came out, but I'll bet people were picking them manually...as some of us still do.

Haven't yet had chance to manually pick an AceII, as I don't own one, but I'm sure I could do it quite easily. Unless this 10 pin lock has some tricks, it's only a little more time-consuming to pick manually over a 7 or 8 pin....repick every 36 degrees rather than 45. Once you work out the setting order from the first operation, just repeat for the remainder.

It's a different story if there's no place to apply tension though...you'd have to find a deep-setting pin and use that hole (two deep-setting pin holes would be better, in conjunction with an adjustable tension wrench with slim enough tangs, to allow a needle pick to pass by)
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Postby mckutzy » 20 Oct 2005 20:55

a modified chain 'breaker'( for taking out the pins in bike chain or motorcycle drive chain, to lengthen or shorten and to join ends of chain) should do the trick.
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Postby quickpicks » 20 Oct 2005 20:55

What will M.L think of next? :lol:
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Postby Mad Mick » 20 Oct 2005 20:57

Just spotted something...

It's pretty obvious that chimps have been hired to design some of their locks, but they've now been hired to write product descriptions for third parties...
"tubuler" :lol:
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Postby Mad Mick » 20 Oct 2005 20:59

mckutzy wrote:a modified chain 'breaker'( for taking out the pins in bike chain or motorcycle drive chain, to lengthen or shorten and to join ends of chain) should do the trick.


Da, dada, da, da, daaaaaaa!
Did someone call for Angle-Grinder Man? :P
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Postby eatjiggy » 21 Oct 2005 21:35

I would like to have one of thoes babies. :P
Got Southord?
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Postby Chrispy » 21 Oct 2005 21:53

Tubuler..... :roll:
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Some things may be pick proof, but everything can be bypassed....
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Postby noorudeenshakur » 26 Oct 2005 5:19

Angle grinder and about 5 secs is all thats required.

They look like some kind of crazy hancuffs.
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Postby mike-z » 26 Oct 2005 16:23

it says its resistant to that kind of stuff from drilling and grinding go buy one and see what happens not like im trying to back it up i just want to know what they mean when they say there high security
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Postby Nasydave » 27 Oct 2005 11:21

There is a pick made for the 10 pin. the HPC TPC-UL
Does 9, 10 and 11 pins.

These locks have pin/within/pin configurations, not 10 separate pins. So a couple of the pins have a smaller pin inside, which must be picked after the outer pin reaches the shear line.





AFAIK, Expensive as heck!

http://www.hpcworld.com/Picks/p_tlpul.htm
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