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Master No.5 padlock

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Master No.5 padlock

Postby horsefeathers » 22 Feb 2006 4:26

Hi

Had a job last night where I had to pick two of these padlocks on the rear door of a business premises. Took a little bit of time but did them both.

I then had a brainwave after I left - On this particular padlock could I have used shims? Or is it one of those ones which are not susceptible to this form of attack? I do not have any shims anyway so could not have done so then so picked them open, but just wondered.

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Postby quickpicks » 22 Feb 2006 17:49

Shims dont ususally work for no. 5's they're easier to pick.
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Postby Chucklz » 22 Feb 2006 18:02

The no5 is double locking, so shims would be rather difficult to use. Again, usually a rather easy pick. 4 pins, no security pins.
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Postby Sbecspeledrx » 22 Feb 2006 18:14

Why would double locking stop you using shims? Sure it's a little harder to get the second shim in, but possible. Shouldn't one on each side do the trick?

I don't have a master No.5 so can't check it myself. But it's certainly the first thing I'd try.
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Postby Chucklz » 22 Feb 2006 18:43

The locking dog on one side is squared off, making shims a tough sell.
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Postby horsefeathers » 23 Feb 2006 4:03

thanks guys - didnt know they double locked!

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Postby paku » 23 Feb 2006 4:03

My masterlock #5 can be picked in literaly 10 seconds with a snake rake... i havent tried other #5's but after i figured out the right pick to use for it... it is the easiest lock i own to open.
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Postby Wade » 8 Mar 2006 0:21

same here, but the back 2 pins are the only ones that work in my lock. its always been like that
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Postby zeke79 » 8 Mar 2006 0:25

paku wrote:My masterlock #5 can be picked in literaly 10 seconds with a snake rake... i havent tried other #5's but after i figured out the right pick to use for it... it is the easiest lock i own to open.


There is a difference between picking a practice lock in your collection and picking a lock that has seen the weather for a few years. It can turn that easy to pick master no5 into a nightmare if the conditions were severe for those few years or even months.

Picking in the field as a locksmith is much more difficult than sitting at home in your comfy computer chair and picking a lock at a nice comfortable level while nice and warm. A lockie on the other hand is out picking at a 30" height when it is either 20 degrees or 104 degrees. Just something to keep in mind :lol: .
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Postby horsefeathers » 8 Mar 2006 10:17

Very true - those two padlocks I picked (first post this thread) were done a 1am on a bloody cold/wet night with the shop owner hovering on my shoulder wanting a quick entry!

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