Yale Deadbolt Question

[digital_blue]

So, I've been repinning a whole bunch of locks for a workshop I'm giving tonight and I pulled a couple Yale deadbolts out of my box o' locks. One is a 5 pin and the other a 6, and both are just common deadbolt cylinders. Something common to both of these, but something I've not seen before, is that all the key pins are rounded on both ends. Presumably, this is done to account for tolerance issues, but it seems to me Yale is normally a decent brand, and the keyways are a bit more on the restrictive side, so I was surprised to see this in these particular locks. If I saw this in some no-name lock it would not have been surprising, but in a Yale?

So, my question to those of you more familiar with Yale locks. Is this common? Both locks appear to be fairly old, and came to me in a bulk ebay purchase of assorted salvaged locks.

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[chrisjc33]

i have never seen this before in a yale but the only yales i deal with are rim cylinders and euros,i'll have a wild stab in the dark and say they have been repinned,they might have even been repinned for picking practice

[digital_blue]

Interesting. Could be the case, but where in heck does one get key pins that are rounded on both sides?

[Raccoon]

I'd buy some of those.

[skold]

Interesting. Could be the case, but where in heck does one get key pins that are rounded on both sides?

How old are the locks and how rounded are the pins?

[skold]

Wait you stated that they are old (duh i neeed to learn to read things)

I have seen PLENTY of older yales (80's,90's) That use the same pins as you describe, i beleive it makes the locks smoother in operation.

[HeadHunterCEO]

Interesting. Could be the case, but where in heck does one get key pins that are rounded on both sides?

in a lab kit

[Raccoon]

is that a brand or style of pinning kit?

link?

[skold]

is that a brand or style of pinning kit?

link?

Its a brand of many locksmithing items, but more famously LAB lockpicks and LAB pins.

http://www.labpins.com

http://www.lockpicks.com/browseproducts/LAB-17-Piece-Mini-Pick-Set.HTML

[digital_blue]

in a lab kit

Reeeeaaally.... Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. I suppose it would make for smoother operation, but it also makes for smoother picking. That almost seems like a classic example of North American engineering at its best:

Problem: Lock badly machined and gets jammed often
Possible Solution: Fix poor machining
Actual Solution: Make pins rounded to compensate for bad machining

Sounds about right. Since when did Ford start making locks for Yale?

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[HeadHunterCEO]

in a lab kit

Reeeeaaally.... Interesting. I wasn't aware of that. I suppose it would make for smoother operation, but it also makes for smoother picking. That almost seems like a classic example of North American engineering at its best:

Problem: Lock badly machined and gets jammed often
Possible Solution: Fix poor machining
Actual Solution: Make pins rounded to compensate for bad machining

Sounds about right. Since when did Ford start making locks for Yale?

db

i don't know why they are.
yale makes a good lock

sometimes i use kwikset drivers for sloppy locks if replacement is not possible.
like when you a bathroom door lock with 150 keys in circualtion and a master sys and every
key is a little diffrent from years of bad copies