Disk locks eg abloy, Abus, Oxford, Kryptonite etc

[Jlo]

Hi,


I have noticed that a lot of motorcycle locks have moved over from the tubular lock design to rotating disk design similar to Abus and Abloy.

I have just bought an Oxford disk alarm lock in the uk for my Motorbike http://www.oxprod.com/ which again has a key which looks like an abloy classic key (Can only be inserted one way)

My question is are the manufactures that copy the abloy design as secure (eg Master locks, Kryptonite locks, Oxford locks etc?)

I am sure they are not but wondered does anyone know the differences?

Many Thanks

Jlo

[UWSDWF]

no they are not and they folow the same things that any cheap locks and such follow

greater tolerences, cheaper parts, lower protection againts bruteforce.......

[Shrub]

Im guessing the important bits like the shackle and lock body are not made of the same strength material,

For general use they wont be too bad to be honest, if they look the part they wont be attacked most likely and they will go for the chain, if thats up to spec they are likely to simply look for another bike,

But thats only my thoughts and if i was talkign to a customer that wanted that type of lock i wouyld reccomend they get the named brands regardless of who sells them it (me or a shop)

[Jlo]

Thanks Both,

The Oxford lock has a boron 14mm shackle and is thatcham 5 min attack approved. TO be honest the bike is a toy and is kept in a locked garage (Which has 3 locking points and the bolts can not be pushed back (You have to turn the handle to lock the garage) so its pretty secure.

Really I should get a ground anchor and big chain but the Oxford lock seems ok as a deterent. I like the alarm on it as well. Trouble is it does not stop some lowlife flinging the bike in the back of a van.

Cheers

Jlo

[Shrub]

If its an insurance approved lock your covered if somthign does happen,

You bike sounds like somthing they would be after, garaged and low mileage due to infrequent use, get your ground or wall anchor sorted for piece of moind, it will be so hard to think about it after the bikes gone,

[Jlo]

Thanks Shrub. Yes I will do. It is insured but comes with a £350 excess not to mention how much the insurance would go up on renewal.

Cheers

Jlo

[Jlo]

I have taken your advice and just ordered my 'sold secure gold' motorcycle chain and sold secure ground anchor

Cheers

Jlo

[Shrub]

Better safe than sorry

[Jlo]

Sold Secure 'Gold' Ground anchor, plus sold secure gold Chain (12mm hex through hardended chain) and padlock have been fitted tonight so now should be all secure (Unless somone comes with BIG boltcroppers or Angle Grinder!)

Plus Boss Oxford disk lock/alarm on front wheel.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers

Jlo

[Shrub]

Take a photograpgh of it all locked up so you can prove to the insurance that you did have it secure if somthign was to happen and you can sleep easy at night,

Sounds a nice set up you have now

[Jlo]

Now that is a good idea Shrub,

BTW it seems that chains that advertise (hexagonal hardened links) seem to see themself as more bolt cropper resistent than normal square link chain?

Do you know what the theory is behind that? Is it the way ti spreads surface area more than round link chain thus harder to cut?

Any ideas.

Cheers

Jlo

[mh]

BTW it seems that chains that advertise (hexagonal hardened links) seem to see themself as more bolt cropper resistent than normal square link chain?

Do you know what the theory is behind that? Is it the way ti spreads surface area more than round link chain thus harder to cut?

Interesting question...

I thought it's simple geometry, i.e.
thicker material is harder to cut for several reasons, and a round cross-section always presents the same thickness to a bolt cutter, while a square cross-section is wider to the triangular opening.
But a hexagonal cross-section is actually a nice approximation of a circle... So square should be better?

Cheers,
mh

[Shrub]

It is a weird one as a round section would presumeably tend to slip out of the cutter jaws easier, i will have to think about this one,

[Jlo]

Just for fun here are some photos of my setup.

The Sold secure anchor (Plug there so you can gauge the size)



Padlock (Which has a 7 disk locking mech)





The Boss thatcham aproved alarm disk lock



Cheers


Jlo